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How China Went From Clean Energy Copycat to Global Innovator | A surge in high quality research and patent applications has cemented China’s dominance in the industry.

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How China Went From Clean Energy Copycat to Global Innovator

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www.nytimes.com /interactive/2025/08/14/climate/china-clean-energy-patents.html

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9h ago

How China Went From Clean Energy Copycat to Global Innovator | A surge in high quality research and patent applications has cemented China’s dominance in the industry.

www.nytimes.com /interactive/2025/08/14/climate/china-clean-energy-patents.html

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We (USA) gave up on being clean energy leaders decades ago and now China has emerged in our place.
Now, between meddling in our universities, research granting system, and an insane HHS Secretary, we’re headed on the same path in a larger number of other science and technical fields, especially Medicine.
- Also, we (USA) gave up on being the world leader in 2025 and now China has emerged in our place.
- The US has never been a clean energy leader.
  
  The article mentioned solar tech being first patented in the US, and even as recently as the 70s the government injected cash to push it forward.
  So maybe not “Clean energy leader” per se, but certainly tech leader in the clean energy space.
  
  Because we gave up on it decades ago.
Why are patents on clean energy developments allowed to begin with?
- The same reason we allow them on any other technology — they create a financial incentive for innovation.
- Because you need to horde the technology in order to secure private financing that builds the industrial productive capacity.
  Who else is going to cover the up front costs? The government? Fuck you, that's Communism! You're going to kill 100 Zillion people
  
  But that would work imply China isn't Communist...ahh, yes, I see your point.
Stolen tech.
- There is a single light of science, to brighten it anywhere is to brighten it everywhere.
- Suspiciously, all claimed stolen tech seems to be based on stolen knowledge…
- everybody on every level starts off by copying and stealing, from individual people to organizations and companies up to entire countries and alliances. if we are to develop as a species, maybe sharing more unique knowledge and technology with each other is actually a way to progress.
Why is NYTimes saying this?
- In the useless hope that it will convince people who otherwise don’t care about “green energy” that it’s something they should care about. If it ever worked in the past, the effect was minimal at best. As evidenced by the fact that its need is still “hotly debated” in this backwater shithole of a country.
  
  I dont mind them harping on it, being afraid of being overtaken is the only thing that's driven US tech since the Space Race started (as long as we ignore finding ways to swindle or torture poor folk)

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