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Should big tech be allowed to mine Australians’ text and data to train AI? The Productivity Commission is considering it

www.theguardian.com

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Time to buy shares in postal services. They are bound to make a come-back
What's the likelihood of AI companies respecting any new regulations?
https://blog.cloudflare.com/perplexity-is-using-stealth-undeclared-crawlers-to-evade-website-no-crawl-directives/
Well we either accept this, get a movement going where we give the AI millions of deliberately false SMS to ingest, or start using a better messaging solution. Not WhatsApp or Signal.
- @quokka
  I know I'm going to regret asking this, but why not Signal?
  Yes, I know it has the disadvantage of not being decentralised, and it's not anonymous as a phone number is required.
  However, for the vast majority of people, it is the simplest and easiest solution to gaining E2EE comms.
  @Davriellelouna
  
  Signal is objectively a far better choice than SMS or WhatsApp and all the options I'm aware of. I dunno what OP is angling at either.
  The only easy to use E2E encrypted chats are centrally managed, eg: Signal - and even getting friends and family members to move to that is hard.
  While a decentralized fully open source self-hosted solution would be great - that shits just not possible for 90% of people. Apps succeed or fail due to barrier of entry and ease of use, and the decentralized options typically have far less user-friendly apps, far fewer users, and often require tech know-how like choosing a federated server or even configuring your own online storage or server (egs: Matrix, Briar, StoneAge). Some bring up Session as another alternative while failing to realize it is also centralized if you want push notifications (which most users do).
There is no such thing as privacy.
Nice to see we are finally getting some regulatory movement here.
- Let’s hope that either they come to the correct conclusion and do have some enforceable legislation; or the bubble bursts and the whole AI Bullshit Scam looses its funding.
  Telstra can’t sell everyone’s SMSs if there is no one buying.
  
  And Telstra can't sell everyone's encrypted messages if we can collectively move on from SMS.
When there is nothing more to dig out of the ground we shall mine the population instead !

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