Italy and Germany Warn the EBU: “If Israel Is Out, We’re Out Too”
Italy and Germany Warn the EBU: “If Israel Is Out, We’re Out Too”
Italy and Germany threaten to leave Eurovision if Israel is excluded without legal grounds, putting pressure on the EBU amid rising political tensions.
Of all the countries that could throw their support behind genocide and rising fascism.. it had to be you two.
It's really fucking striking.
Why is everyone backing Israel? Like every country has this blind backing of their genocide and i don't understand.
It's about power and how it's allowed to be usee. It's about what states are allowed to do to people broadly.
The zionist cause isnt just about exterminating palestinians. It's about apartheid, slavery, and killing anyone whos inconvenient. It's about unaccoubtable state violence. Its about a boot on every neck and a camera on every gadget.
That appeals, generally, to the powerful. That is also why, even if you believe every single lie they've told about palestinians, the zionists must, having come this far, be crushed with staggering excessive and exemplary violence, or all of us, every person on earth, will suffer until this regime they stand at the vanguard of ends all fucking life.
Or, you know, we could just let them keep doing it, revel in the seemingly endless rivers of blood, and eventually envy the dead until we join them.
Both options have their silver linings.
I will just leave this here and provide a few bullet points. See the original document for links to the sources.
KAN, supporting the genocide, apartheid and occupation
- KAN shared a video of Israeli children singing “We will annihilate everyone” in Gaza - link 1, link 2
- During the filming of a genocide-normalizing piece in Gaza, Major Bezalel Batit, Deputy Commander of the 931st Battalion, orders the murder of a Palestinian riding a bicycle, a war crime, on KAN’s camera: "I want to take this cyclist down. Strike him." - link
- Rotem Achihun, KAN’s news host writes and dedicates bombs to the "people of Gaza" - l
Political interference and political instrumentalization of Eurovision 14. Eran Cicurel, the editor of the international news desk at KAN Reshet Bet radio, admits that “The [Eurovision] song contest has long been more than just a musical event; it is a critical arena for Israeli advocacy” - link
15. Eden Golan performs rejected Eurovision song at UN on October 7 2024 - link
16. Isaac Herzog, the Israeli head of state, made a direct and unprecedented intervention to make sure Israel wouldn’t be excluded from Eurovision, saying that he contest was too important for Israel not to be representedKAN, Eurovision 2024 21. During the livestream of Eurovision, KAN made extremely offensive and derogatory comments about other countries' participants, going as far as calling for the extermination of Nemo and Gåte (by calling them Amalek). Eurovision rules state that participating broadcasters “shall ensure that no contestant, delegation or country is discriminated and/or ridiculed in any manner”. The EBU acknowledged that these comments happened and confirmed that KAN's commentators have broken the rules. Still it did nothing and allowed Israel to remain and compete in the final - link 1, link 2, link 3, link 4, link 5
22. Several artists and delegations accused the Israeli delegation of harassment - link 1, link 2, link 3, link 4, link 5
23. A KAN employee ran a campaign against Bashar (Palestinian musician) in the Iceland national selectionAt this rate "exterminate the gays" is apparently the intended vibe of Eurovision and the EBU, unless they kick Israel and its supporters out.
is apparently the intended vibe of Eurovision
I never cared or watched but from things I've seen (against my will) it looks like a big major-label-backed advertisement. And from what I know those lack morals. Is it close to how the real thing works?
a big major-label-backed advertisement
Not necessarily, but a big major label can obviously see a benefit of having one of their upcomming artists take part in the competition. But if this were really true we'd see much bigger artists joining or the top artists blowing up much more often. Most of them don't end up with that many new fans once the competition is over, I guess because their song is too different from the rest of their music and they end up as one hit wonders like Loreen (the singer of Euphoria). Sometimes they do get a large following at first but within a year or two their new fanbase just slowly disappears. The only group that ever made it big because of Eurovision is ABBA.
Do it
Going by how Germany has been doing in Eurovision historically it’s not really that big of a loss.
AS a German I can only agree
As an Italian, I feel ashamed of this statement made by the government actually in charge
Not necessarily the government - this is from the public broadcasters, who should ideally be somewhat independent. Also this article asks us to trust some person from the former Israeli Eurovision delegation as a source.
That said, Italy's current government is a dark cloud over the country. But at least in Italy it feels like an exception. In Germany it's just the same broad coalition as always, and despite being the first country who should really know better they do not seem to be doing any better than the neo-fascists in Italy.
Don't let the door hit your arse on your way out.
Good riddance to all of them.
What the hell is Israel doing in the Eurovision anyway? Do they even have a square centimetre or land in Europe? Kick out the warmongers.
because they’re part of the EBU… but also we aussies are part of it… eurovision isn’t about geographic area. it seems most “euro” things are kinda more “with ties to europe” these days. i think arguing on the basis of geography is a losing strategy in a heavily globalised world
it seems most “euro” things are kinda more “with ties to europe” these days.
Yes, like supporting genocide. In the past, it was; causing world wars, wiping out native population, involving and bankrupting their colonies in their wars, and calling people in their colonies savages for wanting independence.
Just Euro things.
"Beacons of peace and human rights."
No wonder Israel is included too. Like peas in a pod.
Oh no! Anyways
KAN maintains that it fully complies with EBU regulations and emphasizes its editorial independence from the Israeli government.
Lol, the lyrics are as close to propaganda as they can get away with.
I also want to point out that we are talking about broadcasters here, not countries. KAN is by far the broadcaster that is the least independant from their government right now.
In the event of a vote, Germany, Italy, Greece, Azerbaijan, and Cyprus are also expected to side with Israel.
Add Switzerland and Austria.
So it's a bit more than just Germany and Italy...
The whole article reeks of bullshit, with the only source being a "former member of Israel’s Eurovision delegation". But the difference is that Italy and Germany allegedly threatens to leave the song contest in protest, whereas the other countries listed are merely expected to vote to keep Israel in the contest.
azerbaijan, notably, the only other EBU country not signatory to the Rome Statute.
In the past year or so I’ve gone from incredibly positive views of Germany to thinking of it even worse than America.
Seems the de-nazification of Germany needs to continue.
The crackdown on activists (especially oil & Israel) in EU and UK scared me too. I just didn't really think it possible without a huge backslash, and certainly not this easy (very little to none political debate - everyone is acting like this is the most logical if gov actions).
Given the Italian artists in Eurovision come from Sanremo, good riddance I'd say
Bye bye
Yes, please, that self sphincter fondling show should have died 20 years ago, when Gido Horn baa'd "Piep, piep, piep, ich hab euch alle lieb..."
The very last reminder this event overstayed its welcome should have been Stefan Raab blubbering "Wadde hadde dude da?"