The "war on drugs" was never about winning. It was about funneling public money into private pockets and about scaring the populace into compliance. Same with the immigration bullshit.
Let me introduce you to the racist motive
The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.
- John Ehrlichman, President Nixon's Domestic Policy Cheif. (Harper's Magazine)
Well just like with War on Drugs is not about winning. It's about making as much money off of it as you can. Note they didn't try to address the problems with immigration. They didn't change the Green Card system. They didn't expand the number of immigration judges. They didn't do anything except fund ice and fund more detention centers which are privately run at extremely huge markups.
The bloated ICE budget isn't just to wage war against immigrants, it's also because they realized the military wouldn't side with them if they tried to seize/retain power. Now they have a massive, well-funded army of racist thugs that answers only to them, sidestepping the Constitution and chain-of-command entirely.
This is like the SS in 1920s germany, right?
It was the SA back then, the brownshirts. But I think the inspiration is more the Rosgvardiya in Russia
"The US will always do the right thing... after having exhausted all other possibilities."
winning the war isnt the goal
"Terror". The US loves waging unwinnable wars against inanimate objects (drugs) and feelings (terror) lol totally irrational.
Don't forget Afghanistan.
The war was not lost there, it was pretty quickly won. The reconstruction was lost.
I‘d say it was a very long fought war against the Taliban, who managed to survive and eventually won since they are in charge now.
Does Vicky think Russia is losing the war?
They certainly haven't won
It is kind of a weird take when Russia has captured quite a bit of land. Sure, it's costing them a lot (you might even say in inordinate sum), but characterizing them as losing is a hard sell.
an important caveat about what happened with Russia, an enormous amount of their military was only on paper, because it had either been lied about, or stuff was stolen, from various positions on the pecking order.
It should also be noted that after a shitshow of year 1 and being unable to fight a combined arms mechanized war, they switched back to the brute force and massive casualty strategy, and for all intents and purposes, It worked, all Ukraine can do is try to hold territory and kill soldiers, but realistically due to Western cowardice and ratfuckery, the door closed a long time ago on Ukraine being able to dislodge Russia from its stolen territory.
Fuck I love Margaret Killjoy and company!
The US doesn't always lose. They won against the indigenous peoples in the Indian Wars (1775-1924).
Vietnam was not lost, it was abandoned.
We retreated after taking massive losses and accomplishing none of our strategic objectives, unless you consider sending a generation of youth, poisoning the land for generations, and committing countless atrocities to be the real objectives, rather than the stated goal of preventing Vietnam, a country that is still communist to this day, from becoming communist?
Lol, lmao even
It was absolutely lost.
So true bestie.
Unrelated, but the other day, someone cornered me in an alley with a gun and demanded I hand over my wallet - but I didn't lose to them! I simply put my hands up and abandoned my wallet, very different.
I know it's going to hurt when lemmy tries to smack the liberal out of you but we will still love you in the end
The poster forgot about Afghanistan, it should be on that list too
Right right. But you can't funnel money out of the system if there isn't any going into it.
