Student visa applicants will now be forced to make their social media accounts public
Student visa applicants will now be forced to make their social media accounts public
The Trump administration continues its war against disfavored speech by forcing student visa applicants to make their social media accounts public.
What happens if you don't have any social media? I haven't posted under my name on anything in a decade...
Honestly speaking I see a future where people like us are left out of an integral part of the economy.
You will have to disclose your lemmy account.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if a random immigration official knows about your anonymous lemmy account you were already mega-fucked on the immigration front. They've been watching you and probably have a 3 inch thick file on you before you walked in the door.
Welp here it is.
I love trump!
There are plenty of schools in Europe. There is no reason for essentially the equivalent of 1930s Jewish people to study in essentially Hitler's Germany in the 30s right when the smarter people were getting out.
United States schools have many advantages over European ones. For example we don't need a lengthy unit on WW2 era Germany, you get it for free by walking outside.
Imagine a country, they spent billions over the last two centuries to build influence and they got to the top. Foreigners are willing to pay thousands of dollars for getting a degree in such country but no, let them go to a different country and get influenced by somebody else
"I don't use social media and never have."
So what are they going to do if someone fires back with this? Deny their visa because they didn't agree to be spied on by a few of the worst companies on planet fucking earth? Is the government going to be able to somehow make me prove that I don't have social media?
We have the stupidest people in charge right now.
Hello ICE agents, let me walk you through my DeviantArt account. And here's my second DeviantArt account dedicated to the weird shit.
Why the hell would anyone apply for a visa to come here?
That country want to be alone, so leave them alone!
You know, when I got my current job, the people in my department said"we tried to find your Facebook but couldn't" and I said 'yeah that's because I don't have one."
13 years later, still don't.
Though honestly even our work teams chat would probably be too spicy for these motherfuckers. They just want a pretext to keep out anybody. Like some law impossible to follow, that they can selectively enforce.
Europe has great universities. Come study here.
Some of them no longer allow foreign students and some of them charge an absolute fortune to foreigners.
People are missing the point here. Its not about this being a valid strategy to catch anyone but its a fascist strategy to display who's in control over you when you come here.
“Yeah, I don’t have one. Cheers.”
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like they'll belive that
It's going to be weird when there's no handle or social media at all. I nuked my social media around 2020/2021, I was legit tired if people posting travel pics and pretending everything was alright. Oh by the way one could make a fake page just for this, but deep down we know we don't care.
.... but isn't Lemmy social media? And you're here. (Although I guess it is more accurately called antisocial media)
If you loosely follow the definition of social media to mean “Website where you can interact with people in any way” then yes.
But I think the average colloquial use of the term social media really refers to websites where you make a real life personal profile and share things on that profile. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. You as the individual are the focus of those types of sites.
The (original at least) point of sites like Lemmy and Reddit is sharing information where you as an individual are not the focus. Hence posting to communities rather than your own wall or profile, the use of usernames over real names etc.
Lemmy also can’t be used non-publicly so a pointless distinction considering the context.
Lemmy is social media, but when people say "social media" they're typically referring to one of two things. They either mean all social media including legacy forums or they mean media that is directly tied to their real names.
I've heard social media where you interact with strangers instead of "friends" referred to as "antisocial media".
Ah damn, I was a state actor who was going to smuggle in sleeper agents to perform sabotage and espionage in the US, but I can't figure out how to create a fake social media profile. I admit defeat.
At least you're not a teenager that has ever expressed any sympathy for Palestinians. Those are the real threat.
It’s because the morons running the country don’t think that constitutional freedoms apply to non-citizens. No freedom of speech if your speech hurts their feelings. Fuckin aye
And how long before that applies to citizens too? If Free Speech and Free Expression on the whole aren't dead yet, they've got a foot in the grave
Well it’s been like 5 months and we’re already here, so maybe another 6 months to a year?
Bout two months ago at the latest
They already didn't think constitutional rights applied to anyone within 100 miles of the boarder. Hell, the SC(in 75) had to say, yes, children are citizens and also had rights.
This will be a boon for stalkers.
Because it's completely impossible to create a fake account that worship trump and has a lot of maga posts
Its not about logic it's about fascism - they want everyone to know who has power on you even if it doesn't actually do much in practice.
well, have burner social media accounts as well
"What do you mean this 5 year old account has no posts?"
"Work made me get one, but the UI gives me headaches. I think it gives everyone headaches really."
So an applicant with dangerous people in their life, maybe an abusive family member or a stalker ex, is forced to expose their accounts they would otherwise keep private. That's the first bad-case scenario that comes to mind, I'm sure there are more.
I propose a new rule - if so for me, then so for thee. Anything imposed on legal applicants is also imposed on the lawmakers who put it in place.
There is no rule against deleting accounts, my friend.
But one shouldn't have to.
make social media private
say "i don't have social media"
problem solved.
- gets rejected at the border because officer doesn't believe person doesn't have social media accounts
- ???
- no profit
I imagine this is what will happen even though it's absurd. Like it's actively going to become detrimental to not be trackable via an online presence connected to your identity because there are people who are mad that you won't let them invade your privacy. Lol
That is a fucking terrible idea. If they later find it, they'll lock you up and maybe later throw you out. The financial risk makes no sense.
Find what?
I haven't had "traditional" social media for years and what I did have has since been deleted, or so I'm told.
I bet the nazi's will have fake "real" ones ready to go either way. When they want to take their current purge to the next level, you're fucking done.
don't go to shithole america
Actual problem solved.
Trash country continues circling the drain.
Remember folks, always vote against Republicans in the most likely manner to prevent them from having any level of power.
@DarkFuture@lemmy.world
@return2ozma@lemmy.world That's a pretty short sighted view considering just ~150 years ago the Democrats were the party against abolishing slavery. Times change, but American politics really don't.
Limiting the choice to the lesser of two evils only benefits one of the classes in the real fight. As Alaska (since 2022) and NYC (this week) have shown, RCV allows voters to select who they really want to lead regardless of whether polls say they are "wasting" their vote.
You're not wrong, but most of us don't have the benefit of ranked choice in our jurisdictions. Until we can get that, I'll continue to vote against the greater evil.
I dream of being able to one day vote for something instead of being forced to vote against something.
Well yeah but you have to get RCV first. But for the rest of us in FPTP land, we make do until enough of a movement for RCV is built — and you can't build a movement for RCV while basic rights are being stripped away and you're spending all your cycles on the back foot defending those and putting out fires. Eh, who am I kidding... The damage is irreparable, current Democrats (unless the party gets taken over by Mamdani clones) will just do their ratchet shit again and cement this as the new normal because they're fucking useless.
In FPTP, not voting the lesser evil gives you the greater evil. It's dead simple, but I'll be the first to admit it's a damn hard pill to swallow for us idealists (I should know, I was a Jimmy Dore fan in 2019-2020, took me ages to see through faux-left grift because it preys on idealism and perfectionism).
Yet another reason not to study there. Ideological screening, what a joke.
applicants for several kinds of student visas would be required to "adjust the privacy settings on all of their personal social media accounts to 'public'
They are so ridiculous.
But ofc it's not going to happen. They can lick my.
It already is happening. Source: a person getting a visa now-ish.
I can't believe there are still people saying stuff like this won't happen.
What the hell, I went to check the official website for my embassy and this is true??
Yep, here's a US government source.
Are kids living under helicopter parents that want them to study abroad even allowed to have a social media account by the parents?
Marco Rubio, take this authoritarian bullshit back to Cuba you stupid, fucking anchor baby.
Delete all social media problem solved
They trick is to keep some harmless ones. They're not going to believe you don't have social media.
I have two social media accounts that I just use to discuss the weather and post pictures of the cat.
*social media accounts that they know of
Most based article from a Libertarian news site I've ever read.
And what if I have Instagram but I don't publish anything on it? lol
