Let's face it, the people dumb enough to buy one of these probably aren't raising college material.
I went to public university in <bad evil Arab country>, and not only was it free but we got a monthly allowance. It wasn’t some subpar education, I managed to get a 6-figure salary working in the US for a Fortune 200 company until I decided to move back earlier this year.
Next thing you gonna tell me highschoolers working part-time during schooldays like they do in US is not much accepted in <bad evil Arab country> because they are encouraged to study.
And then you are gonna tell me "I don't want 16 year olds to be making as much money as me" doesn't come up in mimimum wage arguments.
And then you are gonna take it up a step and even tell me religious people including Muslim priests especially support this as having Nobel-candidate Muslim scientists in their community helps a lot.
Someone actually did think of the children. Not in a good way, though.
Tbf I have more respect for enthusiast car ownership than many other types of cars.
I walk most places, take the train and limit the use of my own car. (mazda6 estate) Hard to do now that I have a three year old.
I would love an El Camino with an 400hp xl engine. A completely useless car that will be mostly tinkering and some summer driving. A Shelby is a nice car, and if cars are a hobby I say go for it.
I have more issues with oversized cars clogging up my town on what could have been done with a bike or by foot
There's so many depressing layers to that joke. Like a sad, sad capitalist onion laughing at its own rotting core.
Most of the comments here belong to r/orphanCrushingMachine, or the lemmy equivalent.
haha,
unnafordable education is funny
haha,
fuck them kids
To be fair, there's a good chance that there isn't much of a future for kids cuase you know ..... gestures to everything
The Micheal Jordan meme has entered the chat.
Crazy how college is so expensive in the US that your parents gotta start saving 20 years in advance.
(Im guessing this is the US and also seeing this banner just gave me that thought)
There's a lot more to unpack here then it being a car ad.
"old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in" is a completely foreign concept in modern society.
On the part of the company as well.
If your customer's kids go to college, they'll grow up to earn more money that they can spend on pointless expensive cars in the future.
But we need to chop down that tree for firewood. Not because they're cold, but because they like a nice pile of firewood.
That's a proverb I heard many times from Russian acquaintances.
Why do you hate freedom?
Ultra-individualism has been a disaster for mankind
This is so tone deaf.
On the contrary, this speaks directly to their target audience
A car is cheaper than most colleges.
That car starts at $110,000 USD, about the same as in-state cost of attendance in Michigan where the mustang is made and Nevada where Shelby is based
holy fuck ya'll are getting ripped off so badly, even Mao Zedong had more empathy for his people lmao
This ad seems aimed at people who think you can still "work your way through college" without debt.
Sooooo. Middle aged people? Or are we now dealing with those going into retirement.
I think I'm technically "middle aged" now.... No idea how that happened... But I know better than to think you can work your way through college and not come out the other side with a crushing amount of debt....
My country subsidized my education, and provided me with a loan to attend college. I finally paid it off some 20-ish years after I started college.
I've never seen a six-figure salary, despite probably being owed one, but the top rate I can find for my vocation in my local area is around $80k/yr or about 50-60k USD/yr.
Yet, if I go to the USA, and get the exact same job, I can make $80k+ USD, which would easily push me over $100k/yr in my country's currency.
If you guessed I'm from Canada, you may have looked at my username, and noted my home Lemmy instance.
International students pay something like 5x what Canadian citizens do for college/uni (at least they did, the last time I checked), and my local provincial government set up a student assistance program, which provides loans to college/uni students.
I still walked out of college with over $40k in debt and this was in the mid 2000s. Costs have only gone up.
I support student loan forgiveness. It won't help me at all, but I don't really want anyone else to have to go through what I did trying to pay everything back.
Alternatively: Die wondering why your kids don't talk to you
This picture is almost 10 years old now, definitely from the beforetimes
Education shouldn't cast a sports car.
If that sports car were an MX5 Miata or a BRZ/86, it would be a massive improvement if you could get a degree even from a state university for that price!!
The Mustang has been the car of choice for mid-life crises for a long time.
If my dad was an advertisement.
Sure he didn't want to help his children with college, but strangers are going to notice him more due to the car he's driving and you can't put a price on that.
I just everyone driving a (at least a new) muscle car, fairly or unfairly be-damned. It shows you waste your money and care more about appearing "cool" above many other things. Either that or you're insanely rich which also makes you a bad person. People in mustangs and corvettes are always the one putting the pedal to the floor to get to the next stop light. Fucking moron assholes.
That's probably the worst ad I've ever seen.
So anyway, I'm buying foreign.
That'll be 10 billion dollars environmental tax please. Gotta protect against these polluting eco sedans and EVs
Yay Capitalism!
I don't align with the fuckcars movement. But what the fuck is this Ad? Who thought it would be "great marketing stratedgy"? Whoever came up with this Ad should be fired!
Someone who looked around and saw a much larger demographic of "fuck you, I got mine"-ers who resent their responsibilities.
Gen X are the new boomers and boy are they turning out to be ultra selfish.
Gen X here. I think I deeply care for my children, and will probably go to dept to fund my children tertiary education, because I could afford it any other way. And I live in a country where college is free, but still needs money to fund the rest (rent, food etc.) That bagging and tagging shouldn't be a one size fits all
I'm sorry. (from a gX)
I'm not typical. I was one of the nerds even the nerds bullied on, and this was the hey-day of the jocks and nerds paradigm.
When George W. Bush started torturing, I thought that's not the America I was raised to believe in and opened some books (on moral philosophy and history) and started my journey to becoming a raging far-left communist.
By the time we were learning about years-long crunching in video games development, I realized that our capitalists can't even follow their own rules. Id est, the facts were not informing the hypothesis.
Nowadays, I see the species as primitive hominids who bomb other countries and strip away civil rights based on feels and vibes, or in other words, can't follow rational instruction when we have the power to choose to not, and this is likely going to kill us.
Maybe some other animal can evolve complex social relationships and do better, or be less susceptible to selfish interests of a few subverting the community of many.
Yes, I'm bitter.
I don’t align with the fuckcars movement.
Why is that, and what would you suggest we do to improve its appeal? I recognize that we're sort of the radical fringe of urbanism and that's on purpose (a radical fringe is necessary for any movement, in order to make the moderates look moderate), but within that bound I am interested in trying to develop as much credibility as possible.
(Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer to answer without inviting a public debate, and thanks in advance for any feedback you're willing to give!)
I’m in the same boat. I’m here because I want to discuss things related to transit, walkability, better quality of life, renewable energy and new technology: there’s so much we can do to improve people’s lives while also being easier on the planet and cost less.
I’m not frustrated by cars, but more that cars are the only goal. From my experiences the best we can hope for in most places is less need of personal cars. It even gives us a continuing goal: however car dependent we are now, how can we be less so?
This tends to come out in discussions, for example, on parking minimums. While I agree we need to waste less real estate on parking, home and park-n-rides are different. The reality is people in the US are not giving up their cars any time soon. Let them keep them at home while giving them better options. Let them drive to transit while we improve the transit network.
A while back I saw a post on Shittit (Reddit) on r/fuckcars supporting "peaceful protestors" burning Tesla cars. Not only the OP but all the comments were supportive of it and encouraged that behaviour. I get the whole hating Musk thing, I hate him too. I started to see his real self when he did the bitcoin pump-and-dump in 2021, I lost a considerable amount of money because of him. Before that event I saw him kind of an revolutionary business man. Since that event I just him as a grifter lookong for new ways to earn more and more money. So anyway back to point, posts like this make the average joe who doesn't know much about fuckcars movement think they are "extremists" advocating for violence against car owners and their vehicles. I hate Musk, but I don't support and advocate for burning of innocent people's hard earned car. Tesla is still considered a "premium car", many people buy it on monthly installments. Imagine buying your dream car on installment and some random wacko set it on fire just because the guy behind the company started supporting the other party. Before the Trump-Musk relationship, Tesla used to be a "liberal" car since it was electric and liberals love EV's. Deciding to turn against the car company you once loved and to the point to setting innocent people's cars on fire is just ridiculous! And also, I saw a lot of "jealousy" and "sourness" towards car owners in r/fuckcars. Things like these made me avoid the whole movement. You are free to post my message on any community or magazine for debate. Just blur out my username completely and don't like my profile.
That's so dystopian
No future
No mercy
Max Headroom: Twenty Minutes Into The Future circa 1985
Targeting that mid life crisis dad.
The real problem is that college is over priced. Again you people keep focusing on the wrong problem.
It can be both at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive.
glorified toaster on wheels
I do not understand the concept of parents paying for college anyway. Mine didn’t have the means to do that and I didn’t want them to stress over having to do it, so I did it myself.
paying for your kid's college makes more sense if you have the means, as opposed to taking a loan
I also took care of my own college costs, but I can see how cost growth has far exceeded the general inflation rate and federal aid has been shrinking, to put that out of reach.
Also I benefited from a significant scholarship from my Dad’s employer, and that kind of thing just doesn’t exist anymore. There aren’t any for my kids to reach for
