Liberals be like
Liberals be like
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Sarcastic bluesky post saying [time traveling back to 1933 to make sure to tell Germans to protest Hitler less vigorously so as not to alienate bougie centrists who want to go to brunch undisturbed, thus preventing the rise of fascism]
Spainish Socialists! Be nicer to Francisco Franco and maybe he won't coup you in a couple of years!
African Americans! Try not to upset any of your White Neighbors so they don't lynch you. It's the best way to guarantee your civil rights.
Chinese Catholics! Greet the Japanese with open arms!
Why wouldn't you just assassinate him?
Assassinating Hitler wouldn't stop fascism. Capitalism was in decline and socialism was rising in popularity, the bourgeoisie needed a hammer to stamp that out and protect itself. Someone else would have fulfilled Hitler's role, Hitler himself wasn't some special person with a mandate from heaven.
then just keep assassinating until they stop coming
There was apparently an insane number of attempts that weren’t successful, so this plan may not work out
gotta git gud
Cenk is that you
Me going back in time to tell the Communists to stop calling the Social Democrats "social fascists" so they don't both die in concentration camps:
Edit: I didnt even read the username, go to https://existentialcomics.com/ hit random and enjoy. Big fan of their work.
I have no idea about History or psychology but this was pretty funny
The SPD were murdering members of the KPD and collaborating with the police. The SPD sided with the Nazis over the communists. One of the prominent communists killed in the purge against the KPD was Rosa Luxemburg, which along with the other communists killed triggered firm opposition to working with the SPD on top of the SPD's support for maintaining the capitalist system.
Speaking of Existential Comics, here they are making the case for why you should read Lenin.
You are by far the most annoying liberal on lemmy
Thanks, I try. See you in the camps.
The SPD used people like Erich Ludendorff to eliminate Communists. The SPD directly inherited the government from the Prussian King, maintained the interests of the German Empire, and killed Communist political leaders prior to the first election of the Weimar Republic.
The SPD government was the power structure that directly empowered, then acquiesced to multiple coup attempts by the monarchist anti-democratic right wing.
Now, the Russian Social Democrat Party, on the other hand, won their war. So it's not necessarily the 'Social Democrat' part so much as the 'Maintaining Imperial Power Structures' part that the German SPD is faulted for.
The KPD also went on to try and do coalition with the Nazi right wing too, with likewise predictably terrible results.
Social Democrats? The ones that murdered Rosa and liebknecht?
Same as today they will turn their coat and collaborate, not a shred of doubt.
[Time traveling back to summer of 2024 to coddle the sensibilities of "centrists" when pointing out that there was no anti-genocide option on the ballot, and telling them that anti-genocide voters weren't going to show up for genocide-lite]
Not voting isn't saying "I don't like either of these choices".
It's saying "I'm happy with either of these choices".
And in any case, it wasn't an objection or support of genocide that handed Trump power. It was apathy.
Multiple things handed Trump the presidency, none of them were the only thing, but “protest” non-voters were one of them.
for a "protest no vote" you can at least vote third party.
Hurts the main parties just as much, but they now know there are people willing to vote, just not for genocide.
Maybe give a few shooting lessons while you're there
the one time we wanted a Republican to lean a little more to the right
This isn't even close to analogous, here is a better one.
"Real leftists" would have been more than happy to write in a niche candidate instead of ensuring that Hitler didn't become Chancellor in the first place. And then they will have justified it by saying that Germany was going to fail anyway, and they rather have it happen sooner than later, and that none of the blood of the 6 million Jews about to be worked and gassed to death is on their hands.
It’s possible to have voted for the lesser evil and encourage vigorous protest.
It’s not a simple dichotomy.
Voted for Harris, Anti-riot
Voted third party/didn’t vote, Pro-Riot
Plenty of people Voted for Harris and are pro-riot. (Though those people tend to vote as harm reduction not with the naïve belief that simply just voting is enough).
It's not like the Nazis ever received the majority of the votes. Funny to see us blaming the votes of that time.
It's a bit pedantic to say that Hitler rose to power without the majority because he only received 43.9% of the vote..... especially considering that over 17 million people voted for him and the next most popular candidate only received 7 million votes.
That really only makes sense if you are reviewing the election through the lens of someone used to a two party system. If we are going to evaluate it as if it were a two party system and combine the right and left into two coalitions......the Nazi, Centre, DNVP, and BVP would make up nearly 26 million voters while the SPD and kpd would only make up nearly 12 million people.
Even though the Centre party was much more willing to work with the Nazi than the socialist, if we added their votes to the left coalition you'd still have 22m on the right and 16m on the left.
The only way you can really claim that the Nazi didn't receive the majority of the vote is if you misinterpret The Weimar Republic as a direct democracy and not a Republic.
Off topic, but this is the first time I've seen an awful.systems account outside of its local communities.
Except in this case, the previous government had already killed 4 million Jews, and Hitler was only continuing the previous government's policy of genocide.
No, in this case, the government would have killed 0 Jews, and instead provided weapons and ammunition to a long-time ally who suffered a brutal terrorist attack just a year prior and was in the middle of a bloody vengeance campaign that had gone way beyond the scope of neutralizing the enemy and had become a full blown extermination campaign in which Hitler was outright calling for the use of nuclear weapons and complete annihilation.
But, that far in to the weeds and the analogy breaks down because you're just describing the very specific situation that happened back in November.
