Remember, some different-than-them folks looking for fundamental rights and common decency was all it took to get 70 million people angry enough to vote in a dictator

This is a dumb narrative that leads to petty bickering while we are currently living under literal fascism. The reason they elected a fascist is because they desire change from the status quo. Pronouns are not a positive change for most people. So of course they will pick a fascist over that platform, if that's all it has to offer. The left has to get real, and I mean realpolitik. We have real solutions to offer these people. That's what the message should focus on. Inclusion is a given with leftism. DEI is corporate virtue signaling.

agree, the inclusion movement went too far into dictating how people should behave and cancelling people on the basis of any perceived offenses and that gave electoral leverage to the current president
- The inclusion movement hasn't gone too far. It's been turned into a lightning rod for Dems to banter about and clutch their pearls over without actually offering any real solutions to the problems people face.
How is the status quo not the goal of conservatism? It's literally in the name.

Republican voters and non voters are absolutely against the changes they are seeing come from left-leaning or liberal populations. The status quo is literally to not change what already is.
- Ever heard of doublespeak? Nothing in American politics means what it says on the tin. Just like how Dems are the "left." Modern right wing movement that supports Trump is populist.
there was plenty of things besides pronouns that dems had to offer. like boosting new homeowners and offering incentives to new families having babies. racism and misogyny overruled it though. "i'm gonna ban all muslims and mexican are rapists!" won out.

America is looking at the proverbial mirror and realizing its full of racist, morons and people who think women can't lead; and no amount of 'well Kamala and Clinton didn't get me excited and offer me anything' will excuse that.
- I have no idea what policies you're talking about in regards to homeownership and child incentives, and I'm extremely well read on politics. So yeah, 100% that the average American doesn't either.
I don't support fascism buuut

Thanks for proving the point of the meme.
- There was no but, buddy. I dare a motherfucka to ctrl+f
- I don’t support fascism but we need a real plan to defeat it.
  
  Thanks for not paraphrasing the whole post so you could make yourself seem sooooo virtuous and good by comparison. You failed miserably but you sure did try!

This is such a counterproductive take. It ignores why Harris actually lost (like Biden running again and refusing to step down until the end), while also implying that the Democrats didn't do anything wrong whatsoever and the fault lies with the electorate. If that's the takeaway for the DNC from this past election then we're cooked.

It also implies that Harris wouldn't attack Iran when she totally would have. A more correct approach would have been that ww3 for the Democrats is more preferable than worker rights and social institutions Bernie wanted.
- in what world do you think she would have?
70 million people looked at maga bigotry of various sorts and found it not to be a dealbreaker. Fact. They either hoped or knew Trump would hurt other people not like them, so they gave him a pass. (and that doesn't count what I believe to be the vast majority of Trump voters who were overtly OK with it.)

My intent in sharing here isn't to postmortem the election. It's a reminder of the 70 million shitty people we smile and shake hands with every day.

Better to DIE than DEI, I guess.

Can't prove a negative, but it's not like US policy towards Iran (or Israel) changes much from admin to admin. Here's Kamala right before the election saber rattling: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/08/harris-iran-greatest-adversary-trump-election.html

I get the sentiment, but horrible economic prospects had a lot more to do with this than different people seeking common decency when you get down to it.

Biden: Supply chains, inflation, corporate greed. Stay the course, things are improving over time

Trump: Kill healthcare and social programs and deport Brown people. Instant fix.

Dumbfucks: I do hate people who aren't like me. And harming others makes me feel better about myself. I'm in.
- Biden: Supply chains, inflation, corporate greed. Stay the course, things are improving over time
  
  Okay not to defend Republicans, but if I was barely able to afford rent and heard "stay the course" I'd fucking riot. Please don't present Biden's position of "what do you mean? The economy is awesome" as the reasonably side here.
- Things are in fact getting worse for the average American over time... Or were you being facetious? That's where the whole thing falls apart and you get nihilistic voters and raging petty tyrants electing a fascist.
- Lmao. More seriously, though, Trump did campaign on improving the economy and it helped him a lot. The fact that anyone with half a brain could tell he wasn't going to do that is secondary.
Republicans have terrible economic policies. Voting for Republicans for economic reasons is stupid. Even if you're rich, if you care about the long term.
I honestly do not think that it did.

That might be what people will tell you (and themselves in some cases), but I don't buy it.
- To add to this, the economy is not better for the average person currently, anyone who thought it would be is naive and I just have trouble believing that American's on average are that gullible.
MUH ECONOMIC ANXIETY
We all know the economy is bad. But they choose to believe it is caused by trans people and immigrants. So OOP still correct.
Which doesn't make sense either because historically all economic indicators have been better on average during democrat governments than republican ones
- Except the only indicator that matters to the oligarchic owner/operators of the USA, the wealth transfer to the rich.

Harris also loves Israel and hates Iran and seemed pretty warhawkish during her campaign

Edit: if you disagree PLEASE just downvote and don't reply, I'm TREMBLING in fear of your possible replies

Per your edit, and so you're not completely in the dark - I'm here to say I downvoted your comment because of the edit complaining about downvotes. Hope that helps.
- I'm fine with that
I don't think there are many people in US that love current Iran regime, bit there is a difference between not liking it and starting a war.

Also I am so fucking tired of that argument "yeah, what he does is not good but Harris would be worse"

We don't know, since taco is in charge, but we know that Netanyahu was livid when she commented how Israel is handling Palestine. Netanyahu also met with trump in July last year, now we know he likely wanted to have guarantees that trump will back Israel is it comes down to this.

And lastly, trump already tried to start war with Iran in 2019, but failed. He later also said he did it because Netanyahu told him to, which shows how weak he is.
- I'm NOT saying kamala would be worse than trump. I'm saying they're both terrible on this issue. Also Kamala is alive and well and has access to Internet. If she wouldn't do this she could say so.
Far better to elect the person threatening to drop nuclear weapons on Iran?
- Has kamala condemned this action by Trump? The Dems are not anti-war. They are warmongers just like the GOP.

Disingenuous tweet. Not like the other side was committing a genocide and normally just acts like republican lite

Last I checked, most people who voted for trump voted for him because they actually thought he would fix the economy. Only a fringe cares about identity politics.

While I personally believe people who voted for trump were naive at best, it is very disingenuous to pretend like they all voted for him because they hate trans people. Most normal people don't give a fuck about that shit. They just want to live and considering how chaotic the election was for the democrats, it makes sense that more people put their trust in the candidate who was there from the start.

It's a very boring answer, and it is not really an excuse for the current state of the US, but reality is often a lot duller than whatever narrative we like to cook up in our little heads after spending too much time on Twitter.

Your first paragraph is patently untrue the entire right wing media ecosystem is nothing but identity politics grievances and culture war bs
- That logic only works if you believe that every person who voted for trump is a bleeding heart republican who hates diversity. Objectively, that wasn't the case.
Not my fault you haven't been paying attention. Eggs were the excuse du jour at vote time. I've experienced or witnessed right wing bigotry of various sorts (not only homophobia and transphobia) for forty-five fucking years. (And I'm subtracting the years when I was too young and dumb to see it for what it was.)

It's bigotry all the way down, and no one under the age of seventy can remember a time when the Republican party stood for anything else, no matter what they claim. Look at their policies. It's all just how they are dressing it up this decade.
- Sure, but not all the people who voted for trump were Republicans and it is too simplistic to say that they all voted for him because of hate towards minority groups. I'm not saying that no one voted for him because they hate x-group. Just that most people most likely voted for him because they thought he would fix the economy.
  
  I don't think most people who voted for him expected that he was gonna go completely apeshit like he has. I sure didn't think he was gonna be this insane. And no I didn't vote for him and no I'm not American and no I can't just mind my own business because American politics is literally shoved down everybody's throat all over the world.
  
  But I will say that acting like it was all about bigotry for every single person who voted for him is too simplistic a take, like many other people in this thread have also said.

Why do americans think this is ww3? They are not the world and I really hope they will be ok their own with this war.

Russia invading Ukraine. Israel attacking Iran. India attacking Pakistan. Nazi America threatening to annex Greenland.

Sure buddy, it's 'just' America involved here.
Hey just a reminder: NONE of the world wars started because they all got up on the same day and started shooting each other.

If you get to point and laugh a year from now about how you were right and we were wrong, be thankful for it. Right now we've got a lot of individual active armed conflicts, often overlapping with others, including the fucking Middle East (you might want to peek at some of the history there). If we don't already meet the technical criteria for a world war, we're a half a step away.