"No Kings Day" protests turn out millions, rebuking Trump | Our unofficial estimate is that around 4-6 million people attended a protest event yesterday. Anti-Trump resistance is outpacing 2017.
This is a totally unfair and inaccurate comment. He already tore apart democracy when he deliberately incited jan 6th. Please give the megalomaniac appropriate credit in future
The fact that he can do all of this and face zero opposition within government and didn't even get punished once he was out of office (despite popular demand) kind of proves you didn't have a democracy to begin with.
Where was democracy when Bush's brother stole the election for him?
He tried his damndest to tear apart democracy back then too. It's just that there were still some safeguards in place, and people running things who weren't his sycophants. His first term would've gone exactly like this if he'd been able to. He wasn't a nuisance. He's an extremely dangerous man.
I attended my first protest yesterday, alone, while my wife watched my boy play at a park. Minus a couple of neckbeards in raised trucks sporting Confederate and tRump flags, it was a great experience. Lots of support from drivers as they passed by!
I was surprised at how many older people were there. No offense to anyone over 60 here, but until yesterday it felt like many older folks were fine with shit going down this way. I'm in a blue state, in a purple to blue location. I saw way more tRump shit last year than I had hoped to see.
I had the same experience. First protest I’ve been to and besides one dude that drove by flipping everyone off and one crazy old dude with a “dems are pedos” sign (yes, with what’s happening in South Carolina literally right now, the irony was lost on this person), a very positive mood all around. Loads of folks driving by, waving and honking horns, some kids in attendance, and everybody getting along very well in support of a common cause.
I'm a firm believer that many in MAGA are under a spell. The only hope we have is helping them identify that brainwashing and welcome them back to humanity once they do. However, as I've discussed with my therapist, we can't force them. They have to want to change. It really starts with pushing them from the hateful rhetoric of Faux News and the like. That propaganda is a powerful funnel for their hate, vitriol, and lies. It's the hydra that we must slain if we are ever to fix this without more bloodshed.
I'll see you out there in solidarity with the others who still see humanity as a fighting cause. I bounce between hope and despair, but the bounce on the hope side doesn't seem to go as high as it used to.
That's interesting, I'm in a red state, purple location, and it was the other way around. The first 2 protests I went to in April (Hands Off and another one), it seemed like over 80% were (myself included) 50+ yo white people. Then yesterday I was happy to see lots more younger people and more ethnic diversity (though still whiter compared to proportion of the population). I saw more couples with their kids there too, and there were twice as many people overall.
You're a brave person. If I had a kid and a wife I would have thought twice. Which I'm sure you did. Thank you for your service. I hope you had a nice time with your family after. Feel proud. Be safe. I'd buy you a beer if I wasn't hundreds of miles away.
I appreciate the sentiment. I joined the Guard out of high school in 2004 to help my community and have a sense of purpose. Yesterday showed me that maybe it wasn't in vain. I hit a pretty low place this week so seeing some positive affirmations of human commradery was a welcomed sight.
Stay safe and stay hydrated. Much love from the midwest!
So, I attended my local protest. 9/10 experience, had a blast and also realized that being anti-Trump and keeping our republic is a waaaaaaaay more popular position (even in my light red area) than I thought it was. The local police department has its priorities straight and they didn't show up to the protest at all, so there were zero problems with law enforcement. The only thing keeping it from being a 10/10 was what I didn't see:
Clear demands. This was what happened with Occupy. It generated a lot of buzz and got tons of attention, and when they finally asked the protestors "what are your demands?", the answer was basically "idk, everything sucks. Make it stop sucking". We need some clear, hard, attainable demands or we're just going to repeat Occupy.
Organizing. There was almost no organizing happening, no outreach or recruiting for or between political, advocacy, or support groups. People showed up and left with no additional contacts, commitments, or follow ups. That is a wasted opportunity.
Yeah, I love the no kings energy but we need to turn it into political action. Every politician who isn't on board needs to fear for their job. Both Republican and Democrat alike. David Hogg has the right idea.
Initially, wasn't Occupy a protest about the post-recession bank bailouts? Then the production team for Good Morning America put a self-proclaimed representative of Occupy, a "female-presenting person" named Ketchup, in the studio to ask them questions about it, and they had no media coaching whatsoever.
The movement is getting larger and louder each cycle. Protests like this dont bring down the government directly, but are demonstration that a movement has support
Agreed. I think a lot of people in light red and purple areas probably had my same experience of being really surprised at the amount of support there was. The occupy protest in my city was like three dudes in two tents. The No Kings protests stretched for three city blocks and we got a ton of enthusiastic responses (and only, like, three counter protests that I saw) from people driving through. I never ever would have imagined that kind of turnout and support in this town, and I found myself feeling really encouraged that there's a lot more local support for resisting this bullshit than I estimated.
Unrealistic. No politician is going to voluntarily give up their job. Instead aim for making them quake in their boots and afraid they will lose their job in a year and a half if they don't hold Trump accountable for his constitutional violations. Make them oust Mike Johnston as Speaker and elect someone less radical at the very least.
Edit: all that is needed is for a handful of Republicans to defect from the party line and it's kowtow to Trump. Oh, and for the Democrats to stop cowering in the corner and step up to do their fucking job. Not sure which is the harder prospect.
That number keeps getting thrown around but this admin dgaf. That number only works when the admin believes in human rights and when the admin cares about it’s popularity.
It only works when you are near an election, and the election are coming. This administration is working on a different path: at least one year before the next election and is actively working to make sure (fair) elections might not happen anymore
What do you suppose happens at this magic threshold? I'll give you a hint- it's nothing. We still have to do the work to actually make a difference. Protesting and building momentum is good, but we can't just wait until we hit this magic threshold and pretend that will fix everything and rest on our laurels.
Anyone else remember how the Women's March saved reproductive rights? Of course not, and now women are dying in Texas because doctors are afraid they'll be arrested for murder if they treat them for life threatening conditions.
For one, their total sample size was only 323 events, only 3 of which met the "3.5%" level. So the statement that change is inevitable based on only 3 instances is really crazy.
Further, none of those three instances had participants thinking that 3.5% was some sort of goal, it was a correlation. So now you have a lot of protestors treating 3.5% as a goal rather than some organic emergent property of the broader movement. Even if there was something inevitable about having a 3.5% participation rate when no one is aware of that metric, simply knowing of the metric can change a lot.
This has been the fifth major organized protest this year, each has been much larger than the last. There will definitely be another one within the next month or two. Keep an eye on 50501 for details to stay in the loop.
This is a bit OT from the main point of the article, but since they brought it up and used the standard "The worst ratings for any president!!!1! hype [always with qualifying statement like "at this point in their term"| "since some convenient year"]
Trump’s approval in our polling average is 44% today, the worst for any president at this point in their term (except Trump during his first term) going back to 1935.
It's 44% today, 44% yesterday, and 44% tomorrow. It's always in the low-mid forties (40-45%). It's steady as a rock, no matter what happens. Yet I'm continuously seeing articles titled "Trump's ratings nosedive/plummet/crash!" whenever it fluctuates down by a point or two (never "Trump's ratings skyrocket!" when it goes back up a point). It's all for feel-good propaganda.
This is just to say, don't depend on his followers to turn their backs on him--they won't. It's up to the rest of us.
At the end of this term, George W Bush had around 30% approval. By that point, his administration had so obviously failed in multiple avenues that even Republicans were disowning him. By mid 2009, the Tea Party was pretending they weren't the same exact people who supported his every major action in the first place.
That 30% number can be taken as close to an absolute floor of support for any sitting President.
Yep, and Trump has never been anywhere near that low or ever will be, no matter what he does. It's a cult of true believers. Only a tiny fraction of his voters have had misgivings since the 2nd term started, not enough to sway his approval ratings by more than a percentage point. IOW anyone who would stop supporting him because of his criminal behavior already did. The remainder are all in on what he's doing and love him. The fact that it's such a high percentage of our population is what bothers me as much as anything else about this.
What is the point of posting that then? Are you being paid to suppress opposition to the regime by by fomenting hopelessness or apathy, or is trying to discourage people during a time of crisis in their country just for your own amusement or ego-stroking.
Things lead to more things, and it starts with people coming together, organizing, and protesting. The Trump+Christian Nationalist regime wants us to shut up and sit down, to nip any resistance in the bud. You're helping them.
What is the point of posting that then? Are you being paid to suppress opposition to the regime by by fomenting hopelessness or apathy, or is trying to discourage people during a time of crisis in their country just for your own amusement or ego-stroking.
If you guys want to take action and fight, I'll join you. I'm British-Canadian. I'm always in for a good White House burning.
If you want to wave stupid signs that change nothing, I'll point and laugh.
Sure, I'm trying to get people to shut up and sit down with the strong implication in my original comment that more action is required to fix a fascist regime.