Heroes

You don't have to blur fucking on Lemmy.

As someone who learned English in school, I can assure you that the word "yacht" is rather at the bottom of the list of troubles.

See: "The Chaos" (poem)

Monolinugal people thinking that the pronounciation of some rare words is the big issue when learning languages...

Dude, try memorizing the correct grammatical gender for every single noun or every single exception to regular declinations. And that's just for a medium-difficulty language like German.

You know how there's simple English versions of news articles? The same thing exists with German. And the language in these Simple German articles is more difficult than the regular English version.

English is THE easy mode language of the world, which is why e.g. pretty much anyone in Europe defaults to it if they are speaking to anyone who speaks a different native language. Like, if someone from Austria speaks with someone from Ukraine, they will use English.

The term, yacht, originates from the Dutch word jacht (pl. jachten), which means "hunt", and originally referred to light, fast sailing vessels that the Dutch Republic navy used to pursue pirates and other transgressors around and into the shallow waters of the Low Countries.

This sound like something someone who only speaks English would say.

I'm so glad that fucking was censored (although not really at all censored, since I can clearly still see the word), I would have been offended if it wasn't.

Imagine bad language on the internet.

It's what it's

Bitch please:

Skildvagtslymfeknudeundersøgelse

Welcome to Danish.

That's because when you learn a foreign language correctly, you start with boat or ship and add subdivisions of those as your command of the language improves. You can fuck up a lot and still be understood too. People who are native English speakers have a tendency to get hung up on using languages correctly instead of just using them. The question "when you boat go water?" is the same as " when does your yacht set sail?" But much easier to say when you dont have a large vocabulary.

Also having a bunch of people who understand your native language doesn't incentivise you to learn. It's something I notice a lot with people who come over from Eastern and central Europe. Some of them will have almost no vocabulary and then a couple of months later can hold a conversation and are pretty fluent within the year. Whereas a Brit can live in Spain for a decade and stil only know a couple of sentences in Spanish.

I think people from places that use idiographic languages that have to be transliterated probably actually have an easier time with English orthography than people whose language uses a Roman script and is pronounced phonetically. People who are used to puzzling through the layer of abstraction/obfuscation that sometimes ambiguous transliterations will have can see that English orthography is almost always substantially different than its pronunciation.

TL;DR: it's easier for a Chinese person to learn to read English aloud than a person from Romania, but the European would have studied it in school either somewhat or a lot

English is just Esperanto with no rules.

The word for yacht is jacht in Dutch, so that one's easy.

What makes it slightly harder is that jacht can also mean hunt.

However, the hardest part of learning English when you're Dutch is trying not to sound like Mark Rutte.

Fuck censorship.

Hm the word yacht is easy, it means Jacht :-)

Welcome to mandarin.
How many ways can you write the same sound?
The answer is yes.

« Shī Shì shí shī shǐ »

Shíshì shīshì Shī Shì, shì shī, shì shí shí shī.
Shì shíshí shì shì shì shī.
Shí shí, shì shí shī shì shì.
Shì shí, shì Shī Shì shì shì.
Shì shì shì shí shī, shì shǐ shì, shǐ shì shí shī shì shì.
Shì shí shì shí shī shī, shì shí shì.
Shíshì shī, Shì shǐ shì shì shí shì.
Shíshì shì, Shì shǐ shì shí shì shí shī.
Shí shí, shǐ shí shì shí shī shī, shí shí shí shī shī.
Shì shì shì shì.

《施氏食獅史》

石室詩士施氏，嗜獅，誓食十獅。
氏時時適市視獅。
十時，適十獅適市。
是時，適施氏適市。
氏視是十獅，恃矢勢，使是十獅逝世。
氏拾是十獅屍，適石室。
石室濕，氏使侍拭石室。
石室拭，氏始試食是十獅。
食時，始識是十獅屍，實十石獅屍。
試釋是事。

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Instant downvote, you know why...

To be fair, most of the weirdly spelled words come from other languages. Especially French.

Uncensored.

Just do a search for a bit of the text before posting this stuff. It's super easy to find the uncensored version.

POST THAT. Let's kill off this censored trash.

So.... No one in here has tried to learn Mandarin in here huh?

Let's talk about Hanji, heck worse let's talk about:

四是四，十是十，十四是十四，四十是四十；
谁把十四说“十适”，就打他十四；
谁把四十说“适十”，就打他四十

Which is pronounced like:

sì shì sì, shí shì shí, shísì shì shísì, sìshí shì sìshí;
shéi bǎ shísì shuō “shíshì”, jiù dǎ tā shísì,
shéi bǎ sìshí shuō “shìshí”, jiù dǎ tā sìshí.

When I learned that the proper pronunciation of the word queue is basically a letter q followed by a bunch of silent letters, I had to take a break for a while. I enjoy the sound of English language, so that kept me going afterwards, but I am still salty.

Though he aught to have picked a tougher word.

My favorite has to be "read" (to read a book) and "read" (previously read a book)

In a sick way I'm glad it's the language I was raised with. On the other hand, maybe the British should have conquered less.

It's easier than Dutch at least

I can hear a word in Spanish and immediately know how to spell it. I can read a word in Spanish and know how to pronounce it. We can only dream of doing that in English.

As a person who learned English as an adult, u can tell you that the word that gave me the most trouble early on was "weather". I mean these sounds are impossible!!

I was gonna mention the silent k, h, e but then I remember french. They have like 50% silent letters at random. I remember how flabbergasted I was to see millefeuille written the first time.

Mandarin

50 000 characters used to live here

Relevant "Raymond Luxury Yacht" Monty Python sketch https://youtu.be/tyQvjKqXA0Y

Lol in Polish

I think "Eunuch" might be a worse offender of this

What about thought, through, tough, though... wtf?! It took me many many years to finally understand this crazyness lol

We have a park here...

Champoeg state park.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champoeg,_Oregon

Sham-pooie.

Because in Old Dutch, the letter g is pronounced like a y when it's at the end of a word.

As a mainly spanish speaker the word that sent me is "brought" and being told is a monosyllabic word I swear I can clanly pass C2 tests and probably C3 tests and that shit still gets me even 10 years working with english speakers.
Also I laugh at any attempt of a pronunciation rule, english is a collage of borrowed words between Latin Anlgic later Fench and some made up ones. A specific word has a way to be pronounced and that's it same syllables in another word can be totally different. When I fail one I got a great trick, if they ask what pronunciation is that I say "Scotland, Ye cannae show I'm wrang"

Not exclusive to English, but English definitely has a ton of things that just follow no pattern (even by root language, though if you know that, when it was borrowed in, and what vowel shifts it did/not have, you might have a chance).

This did immediately make me think of "Simone Giertz" from Sweeden whose name's pronunciation sounded like 'yecht' to me.

I remember when I was a kid and we started learning foreign languages in school. My class got divided into two halves, ones that study English and other that study German. Few month later I was walking down the street with my classmate and he went like:

• Oh, so you're studying English, huh? What does DUHR mean?

• What?

• DUHRR

• Oh, you mean door? It's spelled do-o.

• Bro, there's an R in there and two O's. DUHR. Even I know that, and I'm not even the one studying English. If door was do-o, then would you spell TOH DOH as "to do"?

Little did the bro know... I hope he at least got German well enough, AFAIK there's little bullshit like that

Shit like this is why I doubt it when people say you can learn English by learning the spelling of sounds, because no you can’t.

Also, how do you pronounce 'stingy'... 'Raphael'...

Tough, though and thorough were a major step for me back in the days...I never knew which one was which nor how to spell them, I felt so frustrated!

Oiseau

It's the same word in my native language.

Try looking up "colloquially". That's going to be a rabbit hole. Oh, speaking of. Idioms. English is one of the hardest languages to learn.

I did that unintentionally. Cmon.

Yacht

All Yakked Up