Nina going off today

But in condemning violence it would be an act of irresponsibility not to be as strong in condemning the conditions in our society that cause people to feel so angry that they have no alternative but to engage in riots. What we must see is that a riot is the language of the unheard.

What is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last 10 or 12 years. It's failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. It has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity.

• MLK Jr

Peaceful protest or "sitting it out" is when you have hope to last longer than the current crisis.

The current crisis, at least in the US, is not going to vanish that quickly. The real crisis is the dropping wages, and that's not gonna revert much. Socialism or barbarism!

The only police reform we have seen in 15 years has been as the result of BLM violent protests.

Violent protest got you every single right you have.

It's historically the only way slaves and the poor have ever improved their lives.

Shut the fuck up

I hate being that cringe guy in the comments posting FD quotes, but this one is such a banger

Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress

I was so, so very close to directly calling jordanlund a shitlib after it was almost certainly him who mod deleted my comment, in my own thread, in .world, stating that, speaking from a historical standpoint, the only thing that stops fascists is bullets in their brains.

He of course interpreted that as 'advocating violence', because ... he is a shitlib.

But instead, I composed myself and wrote a more eloquent explanation as to why my comment had been deleted... and, so far, at least that response hasn't been deleted.

Why not post to power tripping bastards?

Because we already know the .world mod/admin team is a bunch of shit lib collaborators from how they acted when Luigi was framed for shooting some asshole who murdered tens of thousands of people by overseeing the denial of their healthcare.

Sorry to rant but goddamnit am I on the exact same wavelength as this post right now.

Jordan, if you read this, go fuck yourself and keep telling yourself Warren was a better choice than Bernie, you slimy rat fuck.

well fucking said.

i never thought it would be so hard for libs to understand you can't vote fascism away. i never thought they would be rolling over to fascism so quickly.

what the fuck makes them not collaborators of this regime if they want to stop any sort of actual resistance.

Well yeah. It's possible for peaceful protests to work, but let's look at history. In reality, the pigs are going to get violent regardless of what anyone does, the national guard will be called out and they're going to use tear gas because their bosses want them to, and despite the fear of injury or death, large groups of people will keep working to make things better.

This is guaranteed to occur. For good or bad, whatever, it will happen. So let's stop worrying about certain outcomes and move our focus to the uncertain things.

Absolutely right. Even Gavin Newsome is doing nothing but threatening to file a lawsuit. Buncha goddamn pussies. There is only ONE way to deal with Nazis and it isnt bEiNg pEaCeFuL

I had this exact convo with a friend recently. Peaceful protest can work against a government with a conscious conscience. The US gov’t has consistently shown to not have a conscious conscience. My local organizers don’t really seem to get this, which just means they, and many of the general citizens they direct, will be underprepared for the conflict that will almost inevitably arise.

Fight before your not able to

Finally, an accurate use for the term "shitlib"

For the few ppl advocating pacifism below, seems like a good time to read this:

• Red Phoenix - Pacifism - How to do the enemy's job for them. Youtube Audiobook

Shitlibs and policing activities they'll never engage in, name a more iconic duo.

Educate me. I mean this with no hostility, and I'll be honest about the fact that I'm not an American and am seeing this from the outside. I'm not attacking anyone and I'm not defending any one stance, because I'd like to be educated and I'm not confident my news is giving me the whole picture.

Educate me.

Here's what I hear.

• American troops (including marines) have been deployed without the governor's consent (this sounds terrifying)
  • This has been temporarily suspended because it was a hasty move and requires the governor's consent
• If this turns violent then it can be considered an insurrection (or meet whatever terms required to be considered) and the insurrection act can be invoked (this sounds terrifying) (why would you encourage violence in this circumstance?)
• I get how pacifism can be the wrong move in some circumstances, but this post sounds like it came from people wanting to stir the pot. And that's exactly what Trump would want, right?

Please spell it out for the rest of us. And how can I help?

Isn't this exactly what Trump would want? I may be missing the point here, and as an ally I don't mean to take anyone's energy away from far more important efforts.

Please educate me (if you can). Please fight for your rights!

There's a much better reason to not be violent: So that you can get more people onto the streets. Figures that most people don't fancy dodging burning trash cans and you want everybody on the streets, not just your polycule. People need to feel like they're safe at the protest, the only danger there is is coming from the state.

Fucking extremely this.

God I love Nina, happy to see others are aware of her style.

It has to get worse before it can get better. Violate.

Feel like they're ignoring the fact that these massive protests are a sign of contention and the point is to not devolve into complete violence. We do need to make it harder for him to convince others that we are not unruly people, but people protesting actual grievances.

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Lately people are starting to come around to ways social media makes people sick, and understanding consequences of the information age; from my experience the first casualty of this was not our attention spans, but our will to resist. Apparently just telling people your opinions on things anonymously gratifies your ego just enough without having to sign a petition, or stand outside in a line. "I'm so passionate about this subject I spend every waking moment talking about it online.; uh yeah I can't make it to the protest sorry, It's like a 30 minute drive and I have work in the morning."

You guys first. Show us how it's done.

"I can't believe no one is doing anything!! I'll post on twitter where real change happens!"

This is like saying, "If you're going to be wrongly accused of a crime, you may as well commit it"...just to prove them right?

Not sure how this advice does anything other than give Trump exactly what he wants.

First you have to get mad.

I know this is an anarchy community, but peaceful protests have been successful before. And the thing is, if the authority literally fired and killed a civilian, the authority will immediately lose legitimacy. This is what protestors are railing on. They are like "what are you gonna do kill us?"

Does anyone think that Donnie is going to be sad if someone burns a truck? Or a Home Depot? Or an ICE officer?

Don't follow the provocateurs in pointless vandalism. Protest, and save the rocks to throw at the people who are directly responsible for this blatant fascism.