2mo ago

LA protests live updates: Marines will be deployed in response to immigration protests

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LA protests: Trump authorizes the deployment of additional 2,000 National Guard members

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2mo ago

Live updates: Gov. Gavin Newsom to sue Trump over National Guard deployment in Los Angeles

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So...how close are we to that point where other countries open their doors to us under asylum laws? I mean, Trump's siccing the military on people and it's not even 6 months into his term yet.
- There exist countries that have already offered safe haven/asylum to US'ians... Especially to LGBTQ.
  
  Links, please? I haven't seen anything suggesting that, yet.
  I'm probably OK. I'm straight. I'm White. Though I am agnostic and don't buy the State Religion behind Project 2025.
  My wife, however, is Black, Bisexual, and Pagan, four strikes, and now I'm a race traitor for having married her, so there's my strike.
  
  I think there is a gross overestimation of the support that is available. I've seen a lot of bad articles copying and pasting different parts of immigration policy and programs but without understanding how it works as a whole.
  Like, Canada has a website about helping LGBTQI+ refugees ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/about-refugee-system/2slgbtqi-plus.html ) and it includes partnerships with groups like Rainbow Railroad who can refer people in need of resettlement to the refugee process.
  But if you only look at that and fail to consider the safe third country agreement, you're giving false hope.
- Taking in refugees is not very popular at the moment.
  
  Just like the 1930s. By the time countries will open their doors to the oppressed in the USA, we'll be rolling our own ovens here.
  
  Bullshit. It is popular.
  But the two sects of the big one party are both anti people
I know we've been crossing a lot of lines over the last several months but this seems like a big one.
- They ALL seem like big ones, but then we get over and shift that much further into authoritarianism.
  
  It’s called Hypernormalisation, and Adam Curtis did an interesting documentary about it back in 2016ish
- They might abandon him when people start shooting back. That's what it will take
Fascism at work.
Any marine who follows this order is a traitor to the United States.
- Guess 700 Marines are about to be traitors to the United States.
The saying “once in a lifetime events” needs to be changed to “well 5mins ago”
Coming soon to a city near you.
The mass shootings will begin.
We are so very fucked
They do this without controversy and yet when I, Antifa President John Antifa, deploy the HRT Super Soldiers, suddenly antifa is the villains?
I believe I'll get criticized for this, but here I go.
Public protests need to disappear and go underground. The news won't report accurately, at least not in America, and protests are EXACTLY what Trump et.al. are wanting.
Get out your Tor browsers everyone and get organized. We need leaders and a plan.
- So here's my main critique: tor browsers and getting organised, as you put it, is not an alternative. The only way of organising at scale at the moment is protest. They could be better executed, they could be more effective, they should be refined for sure. But nixing protest because it's what the enemy expects is like fighting with both arms tied behind your back for fear of damaging your opponent.
  They don't want protests, they're just expecting them, because it's all that can be done at scale.
  Resistance should include private communication, small operations, protests and everything in between. ALL levers should be pulled, including mass protest.
  
  Well I disagree. I believe it's not what they expect, it's what they want. They are being deliberately provocative to get a reaction, so they may respond. Which they are currently doing.
  Not only that, but we are no longer talking about important policy and legal attacks on freedom.
  Not only that, but any looting or violence will be amplified, and any police or military abuses will be diminished (by the media). The rubber bullet impact photos aren't disseminated, the looting of an apple store is, or a shoe store, or any fire.
  The targeted feedback we receive (through Lemmy and other social media) makes us feel like we're accomplishing something, but it's the social change equivalent of junk food. Like carbon credits, it's not addressing the problem, it just makes us feel better.
  Only my opinion, of course.

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