Privacy @lemmy.ml plankton @programming.dev 1w ago

Best way to pay with crypto privately? Monero?

Mullvad gives you a discount if you pay with crypto, and monero is supposed to be the private crypto. What is the best way to get Monero? I'm in Canada

https://mullvad.net/en/pricing

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Mining it for two or three weeks usually pays my 3 month plan at airvpn, with a modern AMD processor, not sure how the modern intel processors mine. It’s probably the best way to anonymously obtain xmr. Xmrig has good documentation and is fairly easy to set up. Cake wallet has a way to purchase crypto with a cc, but not xmr directly, would have to purchase litecoin then swap to xmr in the app.
- Mining isn’t economically worth it and it’s also bad for your components' health as well as the environment
  
  Mining on a cpu is much less taxing than a gpu, and if you do it intermittently and do not run all cores there’s no additional strain on hardware.
  
  Exchanging money is also not economically worth it. And if you only pay for renewable electricity it isn't bad for the environment either, at least on paper.
- Thanks!
There is a community for monero !monero@monero.town
- Thanks!
- It doesn’t really federate properly
Go to whatever service/exchange is easiest for you to buy a common crypto that has low fees (either Litecoin or Doge) and use https://changenow.io/ to swap to monero and send to your own wallet.

Use Guiwallet on desktop or for mobile you can use either cake wallet or monerujo wallet to hodl your monero.

Just transfer $20 into monero every couple of months and use it to buy time on mullvad as you need
- This is the easiest way.
  
  Use a centralized exchange (like Kraken, Binance…)
  
  Buy LTC, BCH, anything you want
  
  withdraw that
  
  Swap (exchange) those through a swap service, from the crypto you bought, to XMR.
  
  https://trocador.app/ is an exchange aggregator that’s privacy friendly and Monero friendly if you want. They don’t take any cut and you can get better margins this way.
  
  Optional but I recommend it: churn your crypto by sending all of it to yourself multiple times, waiting a few days between each churn. Easier to do with Feather Wallet on desktop as it has coin control. This minimizes the links to your identity: Monero shines through multiple transactions, but tx to tx can statistically be liked. The more you do, the blurrier it gets.
  
  On Feather Wallet (which is open source), there’s a "coins" tab where you can see each unit of crypto you have, and can "sweep output" to "yourself (churn)" easily.
  
  Spend your XMR, have fun :)
  
  Additional notes:
  
  The initial crypto should be a relatively famous one with low transaction fees so you don’t lose a lot in the process. The two I wrote are nice.
  
  For swapping, the higher the amount, the lower the fee % will be. Always try trading over $20 to minimize fees.
- Thanks!
- Doge? No.
The only crypto worthy of the name
- You dont even zcash?
  
  There's several privacy coins
Private? I'm pretty sure any of the existing means are private in the sense that I, a random stranger, will not know about that transaction.

Do you mean anonymous? Pseudonymous? Hidden from your government or the government where MullVad is established?

I'm not trying to be pedantic here but rather to genuinely understand so that I can try to answer.
Check the exchanges sections of monerica and kycnotme

https://monerica.com/
https://kycnot.me/
You can use a decentralized P2P exchange platform called Haveno to pay in cash (with or without mailing) :

https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno
p2p excganges like bisq atomic swaps check https://kycnot.me/ for exchanges js make sure you do your research

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