Four NYPD officers converged on one woman on a bike because she smiled at them, then detained her because she wasn't carrying ID.
Four NYPD officers converged on one woman on a bike because she smiled at them, then detained her because she wasn't carrying ID.
If you smirk or make eye contact with the NYPD, it triggers their predatory instincts. Most are bullies and full of themselves! 🙄
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/30846799
What's with the replies asking why she's not carrying ID in NYC? Is there some reason why you need to have ID on you at all times on New York?
the reason is that the people asking are fascist asses. there is no legit reason to “need” an ID in any american place when out like this woman was.
ID is like meth to these pigs.
It's actually a law in certain states. In California you need an ID even for the officer with a bicycle infraction. This is New York though and I don't know the particulars of the municipality.
California does not require a cyclist to present an ID to an officer when being cited for a traffic offense. However if they choose, an officer may arrest and hold you to verify your identity. Same is true with pedestrians.
Okay, so smiling is bad. What the fuck is the solution to not look suspicious to cops at this point? Making eye contact is suspicious, but not making eye contact is also suspicious. So what, are we supposed to
Sneak 100past them when we see them from afar now? Is that it?At which point does a society realizes that maybe we have an issue when people are actively trying to avoid cops even though they are not doing anything that is against the laws? How many people need to be detained over nothing? How many people need to be brutalized with no consequences to their blue aggressors? How many people need to be killed by the "finest"?
I treat cops like a rogue militia. I avoid them when I can, and otherwise, I feel the need to watch my every step because they are completely unpredictable. And for fuck's sake, I'm white! Needless to say, cops are much less on the lookout for me. When I hear the stories of people from different ethnicities, it's fucking terrifying.
But hey, gotta protect the rich somehow, I guess.
Okay, so smiling is bad. What the fuck is the solution to not look suspicious to cops at this point?
There's an episode from the Twilight Zone reboot (S1E3, "Replay") that plays with this idea in an interesting way. A black mother and son are at a diner with a police officer, and things happen and her son gets shot. But then she discovers that she has this magic camcorder that can rewind time, so she goes back to the diner and tries again, doing things differently. And this time he gets shot for a different reason. So she goes back, again and again, trying different approaches.
It really captures the feeling of insecurity, of being damned if you do, damned if you don't. And it's sort of a metaphor for the different scenarios playing out in one's head, of trying to think of how each action might be misinterpreted or go wrong.
As it turns out, avoiding the cops -- or even looking like you're avoiding the cops -- will also land you in hot water
Pick up that can
Urgh... yes
honeyofficer...Ep3 wen
Lesson learned.
Don't acknowledge cops, don't look at them, don't talk to them, avoid them, ignore them and don't trust them.
Now you’re “acting suspicious”
I'm up in Canada so this stuff doesn't affect me much .... but I used to laugh at an old friend who used to actively avoid the cops. If he saw them up the street far away, he'd cross the street, turn into an alleyway or just turn around. If we were driving and he saw a cop car, he'd immediately turn anywhere and drive away. He wasn't a criminal or anything, he just didn't like police and avoided them. No matter the situation, if he saw a cop, he'd do everything to avoid even having the remote possibility of even interacting with the police.
This was years ago and since then I've been like that too but not as bad ...... but as the world becomes more authoritarian these days, especially when police training even in Canada is to just have a pulse and be a white male .... I'm avoiding the police more actively than before.
My old friend Johnny was more right than I realized.
What's really shocking is that a woman detained in the US for not having ID wasn't delivered to ICE immediatelly and deported to El Salvador without due process.
I mean, the whole point of not having due process is that if a person can't right then and there prove they're not an illegal immigrant they can just treat that person as an illegal immigrant and "dissapear" that person for it with no recourse.
It doesn't matter if they can prove it or not. ID, documents, birth certificate, none of it matters without due process.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia was specifically prohibited from being deported to El Salvador. He literally had an order from a US immigration judge that said he cannot be legally sent there in particular, because of the risk to his life.
Papers, please 🫴
Its absolutely institutionalised amongst NYPD officers to be massive, egomaniacal see you next Tuesdays
Most cops are cunts, not just the NYPD.
*all
FTFY
Its' strange that they let her keep her phone in that tiny cell. In any case, they are all very brave when the offender is a 55kg young girl.
Were they brave though? Even then they didn't have the stones to approach her without backup, apparently.
Makes me think it's fake. I can't find anything on it
remember folks: brutality is a method employed by “democracies” under capitalism.
FREEDOM!
TBF you’d have to be truly mentally unwell to be smiling in these times. /s
Do you want people to hate you and ignore you?
Because that's how you make people hate you and ignore you.
No, they want people to literally cower in fear and lick their boots.
Psychopaths who habitually escalate because you don't give them enough "respect," but I do stop for anybody with lights on even if I'm in a bike lane. Mostly because I don't want to get hit by an idiot cop or sleep deprived emt or some other car deciding the bike lane is where they want to go to yield for the emergency vehicle.
Never once had a positive interaction with a cop.
That's because, and all together now...
All Cops Are Bastards
Makes sense. (I believe you!) They do not exist for positive reasons.
I'm a little confused. Lots of words before it seems like she was pulled over because she didn't get out of the way of the police when they put their sirens on. Impossible to know whether she made a mistake or not. Still probably a massive overreaction by the police. Obviously traumatic for the young woman but her narrative seems melodramatic. Yes, you're in the bike lane but you can still move over. It does seem dystopia that you can be arrested for not having ID for such a small offense.
She said she didn't have space to move over.
Yes, I heard that but I think that there is almost always somewhere to move. My guess is that the police thought she didn't make that effort. Probably the police didn't make it very clear what they wanted before the escalated.