Why does reddit ban so easily?
Why does reddit ban so easily?
So why the hell does reddit ban people so easily? I got banned from one games sub for something i did not do and could not contact the mods since they also banned me from doing that.
So only option left is to make a new account so i get access to the sub so i can ask for help there since i had problems with the game. Well it worked and i got my problem with the game solved but after that i got permanently banned for ban evasion :/
There was no ill intent with any of my posts and was wrongfully banned the first time. Sure ban evasion is forbidden but it should not be so strictly moderated, concidering that a person can be banned by a mod just because they misunderstand one of ur comments or just generally want to cause harm to some users. There needs to be a way to avoid mods abusing their power and only way to do so is making a new account.
Now there is no way for me to get help with the game if i ever have more problems, or anyway i can help someone else who has problem i know how to solve. That's unreasonable.
Unfortunately some mods do have an axe to grind, so they're using the new rules for which to lay down tempbans and permabans. Even for just criticizing a particular asshole Redditor without using violent language.
Fuck reddit. We need more niche communities on lemmy.
I agree, is there anything in particular you miss?
A lot of them exist, but haven't been active for a year or more.
Reddit deserves to die! Leave it! It's become a tool for the government to control us.
"Ban Evasion" is such a bullshit concept anyway. Do something we don't like, and try and come back early? You can no longer come here, for life! And since I bet they IP ban, it bans your entire household! I wonder if there are some public places that are Reddit black holes, silently banning any Redditor who goes there because one person once called King Steven a greedy pigboy.
I left Reddit at the time of the great APIcalypse, and there were some businesses whose customer service was so abysmal that the only practical avenue for customer service was on Reddit. Getting a permanent ban for bullshit reasons can have an actual effect if you need support from one of these companies.
It surprises me that they haven't banned the wrong lawyer at the wrong time to prompt a class action lawsuit over how arbitrary it all is.
Thats the big problem i currently have. The game sub i was part of is the place where i always got help solving my problems quickly and it's the only place to have any meanigful conversation about the game.
Now i can't do that anymore and since im perma banned on reddit i can't take part in health and mental health subs i was part of that were the only place to get support or have conversations regarding all my health problems :/
I feel you man, got permabanned as well. Apparently you can not say mean things about Musk, Trump and Israel there, sooner or later it's going to be glorifying violence, and after that they sic a report bot on you or something and you get banned for multiple breaches of the rules, which are entirely ficticious (the breaches, not the rules). Afaik fascists got me banned so they've got one less voice calling out their bullshit.
How I feel about comics and blender, but blender at least ive had better help on discord and yt comments since most creators are small they tend to reply quick, reddit was mostly nice for finding other small creators, wish theyd come over here lol, I tried mentioning lemmy in some discords and how the blender community has potential for getting eyes on your work but no luck
My local library, every hotel and Starbucks are such black holes they do exist. They are also becoming more common.
I live in a popular tourist area, iv seen signs that warn people to not log into their social media accounts while attending due to possible ban issues.
Tho it covers twitter, Facebook and tiktok along with reddit.
The really really big cons don't really deal with it since most of the big social media sites ignore the ips for those locations. Tho that's not entirely a full proof solution
A buddy of mine got banned on reddit and Twitter both for ban evasion/no reason given respectively after logging in at a national level convention here. He worked for reasonably sized media company at the time too.
Automated IP baning like always has been a mess and barely functional. It's basically never worked reliable and always has collateral damage.
Hardware id and mac address banning do the same thing tho more in frequently.
My permaban was for using the Wi-Fi in a public place, so I think you’re right.
A perm ban isnt an ip ban I dont think, at least for accoutns that exist on different devices never logged into the same devices
It’s not, I’m the only one at my house who is perma-banned
My brother can still go to Reddit, but they always know it's me.
My theory is it’s because they’ve left the banning and appeals process up entirely to AI at this point, there are no humans involved at any stage, so you get kicked for using a trigger word or some other nonsense and then nobody actually looks at the appeal.
It's strange because I'm trying to get banned lol, and it won't. Ilve literally said to kill the people on the Epstein list and to Luigi shitty people
Whoever is watching the Behind The Bastards sub will 1000% get you banned. Most of my bans, including my final one came from there. I got banned for a week for saying “I’m surprised Kanye hasn’t murder/suicided Kim or Taylor yet” in the BtB sub apparently it was inciting violence, my final ban was when I joked on a list of people naming insane things to be “pro” about and I wrote I was “pro-keying this car” which was inciting violence again apparently. you just have to comment in highly contentious subs and you’ll catch bans left and right
permanently banned for ban evasion
Time to make another account then?
I think they will just keep banning the new accounts because now im banned from reddit, so whenever i make a new account it is technically concidered ban evasion and will lead to a ban :/
how would they know it's you? Don't use your personal email (on any social network), use VPN(on any social network), don't use their app- just use the browser (on any social network).
Reddit is so over zealous that this is basically impossible. Every account basically for ever will just get auto smacked.
You would need to move cities, change how and where you post, change what subs you sub to, change every device you own.
Reddit is one of the most invasive companies in the world when it comes to how deep and wide they dig to ban, ban evasion. Shits wild. Lol
They still accept those single use temporary emails and you can use VPN to connect. Don't use their app, just use the browser and you're good
Hey, fellow banned for nothing.
I challenged a mod for my making a comment in a heated chain. I guess just since I was there I was evil.
I told the mod they were wrong and soft.
lol he cried to Reddit and they permabanned me.
I’ve said some controversial shit on Reddit in the last 12 years and never had a problem.
Reddit is gone.
Oh well, it looks nice here.
The mods in reddit have way too much power, especially after ban evasion became a thing. Hopefully this place keeps growing.
I already like it more than the stupid Reddit app. This is closer to Reddit a decade ago. Reddit has a knack for this. Still remember when Imgur was just an image hosting site FOR Reddit and then it turned in to tumblr. All those tumblr people that went to Imgur, liked Imgur because Reddit was too confusing. Now those people are on Reddit. I just want to keep staying away from those people. I’m basically talking about the hive mind, professional victim types.
The want people stuck in the Doom scroll wheel, not people thinking and arguing.
Easier to control.
Or a non conspiracy theory: it's cheaper to use "AI" to ban even if it is quite bad at it.
I’ve been warned for posting a gif of Luigi (the Nintendo one) because they’re cracking down hard on anything remotely related to the other Luigi.
Also got banned for 3 days for commenting about a certain billionaires drug problem lol
I got in trouble once for saying Luigi’s name. In a Nintendo sub. While talking about the game, Mario and Luigi: Brothership. Guess that was too dangerous.
Thats crazy! Reddit really is going downhill.
Today my dad got permabanned from Reddit because he read a post while at my house, they counted that as ban evasion and now he can’t ever make another account without also getting instabanned.
They only care about short term profit and they don't understand what actually made their platform valuable. Reddit is a lost cause.
Seems like it
It started getting worse with trump running. Me things some right winged trolls took over just like the rest of Silicon Valley.
Tech bros are in for the grift through cheap labor and blind obedience, and they don't want to waste money on what they call politically-correct.
All corporations are ontologically Fascist
For automated bans I can tell you why - social media fingerprinting and anti-bot is really hard and it scales in favor of banning.
I working in anti fraud software development and the browser and apps give you incredible fingerprint that can identify anyone. However it has many false positives simple because the datasets are huge and peoppe use social media in weird but legit ways (cafe wifi etc). Generally big important systems like banks can alleviate that with support and KYC systems (know your customer) but social networks don't want/can't really do that in a scalable way.
Then, there's misalignment of incentives. The anti bot team does not care about false positives and these are almost never reported to the upper management so false bans become common and in the big picture not that big of a deal. Thats why you see so many websites use cloudflare anti bot when they are clearly losing sales when A|B tests are evaluated but the site admits never know that because cloudflare only tells them about successes not failures.
Finally, real bot developers are really fucking good. Wirh proper funding you just hire real people with real web browsers / real phones and thats why large scale bot operations like those of governments are almost impossible to defend against. Thats why Russia, China, India etc are investing so heavily in internet trolls - it's super effective and it's a hard problem to fight as it's easy to hide behind "xenophobia" and just deny everything. Any forensics would also implicate the social media hosts so the incentives all align for a perfect propaganda machine.
Because one can not tell any truth in the face of US citizens. They like to believe they are always right. And that we care.