would you rather retire or cryogenically freeze yourself to see a new world?
would you rather retire or cryogenically freeze yourself to see a new world?
just to outline this fictitious would you rather, you rich enough to retire cryogenic preservation is perfect. you could live out the rest of your life in retirement and see the world evolve "like god intended", or you can adopt cryogenic lifestyle where you freeze yourself for however long you want and stay thawed for however long you want but your still a human with natural human lifespan so you will eventually die.
of course contingencies are allowed if you think something cataclysmic will happened you can be dethawed abruptly and considering future medicines to extend your lifespan is allowed
Let's see if I understood correctly your question.
Get frozen, yes or no?
If I were to get frozen, it would be on a ship making it's slow trip to another planet. Thaw me when the next planet is habitable, so I can see something new.
Oh, and by then I could probably get my consciousness put into some human/cyborg/animal hybrid, so that would be a new experience too. Yeah, otherwise I'm fine with a boring retirement.
monkey's paw: its a slave planet where all that inhabitants are forced to work and all computers are repurposed to generate AI images
Sounds like earth to me
wasnt that futurama. technically its biologically not possible to do it, because freezing would form ice crystals and damage your cells. maybe for organisms that withstand freezing like this.
lol its basically futurama from fry's perspective or where fry, bender, and the professor make a time machine that only goes foward
Even if I wanted to be frozen, there is no point. One would have no guarantees that you wouldn't just be thawed and disposed later so the company can sell more stasis slots. Or if they decide to even try to keep their word, they could maintain your stasis so badly that you would die from that or maybe thaw partially occasionally or something. Unless you are billionaire and could afford somekind of insurance that makes sure nothing happens to you, there would be absolutely nothing protecting you.
And even if everything went according to plan, society could collapse in such way maintaining the stasis could become impossible due to lack of resources.
Neither, I want to have my brain scan put into a robot and live forever. Or exchange body parts for robot replacements till I'm a robot ship of Theseus.
If you can beat 'em, join 'em!
Neither, I want to have my brain scan put into a robot and live forever
I will never be convinced that isn't a copy. Grod-dang emdot-tu drives don't have thoughts, Michael!
Now getting a brain case to be put into other bodies? Sure. Though I would immediately be unrecognizable as a human, not because I'd become some cyberbrute but because I'd be something more like Wall-E(/an ROV) or at times some monolith in a forest tied into the Myconet.
Maybe humanoid arms, maybe eyes that aren't cameras, but other than that I'm not sure. Maybe living gel (that assists with homeostasis, bioreaction) though that wouldn't be obviously human either. It might be the most obvious just when I'm doing some hobby-esque things, or making a mistake and immediately being aware of it.
Ever played Soma, by any chance?
I wish I had the confidence in mankind's future to consider cryogenic freezing...
Wake up being yelled at by a lawyer for interrupting his masturbation session during "Ow! My Balls!"
The global seed vault in Norway is north of the arctic circle as a way of offering preservation insurance and predictable, controlled, frozen temps for food sources and biodiversity. It's constructed deep underground in permafrost.
I was reading a book about refrigeration's impact on the food supply last year and at the end the author decided to visit. The day of her visit it was closed due to emergency at the main gate; meltwater was flooding the entryway. Meltwater North of the arctic circle.
I think it's much more likely you awake when the power goes out because MicrosoftAlphafacebookXDisneyP&G needed more power for a new data center and you couldn't afford a politician to keep your town's power.
If the power goes out, you don't wake back up. This ain't fallout 4. If the power goes out, you're a corpse. We don't have a way to thaw human sized creatures that doesn't involve ice crystals rupturing cell walls, and organs. The only creatures that seem to be able to do it, either live at the poles in water, or are tiny. Even then, most of them aren't mammals.
yeah i was thinking about that. like would you wake up in a dictatorship or a time with way more problems than now
Please give me the dignity of death.
I will not be a slave for an ultrawealthy megacorporation.ironically i thought that inspired this would you rather was making IP for Disney and having Disney cryogenically freeze you just to thaw you out to prove your alive so keep the copywrite out of public domain. of course disney would pay for your stasis
Retire, i don't think I could stand living in the future. I'd definitely love reading a summary of what's coming up next just before I die though.
none of that shit works and won't work for a good minute, cryonics is rapture for nerds that take scifi way too seriously
what we already know tho is that because there's one payment to store meat popsicle effectively forever and this shit is ran by true believer techbros, it tends to run out of money pretty regularly. that means they run out of liquid nitrogen and meat popsicles thaw, and this already happened more than once
Jane, get me off this crazy thing!
When I unfreeze myself, will the 93 cents in my bank account accrue interest and give me over 1 billion dollars?
That depends on if freezed corpses have ownership rights.
Yes, but inflation will outpace your interest.
Yes, but in the future, something as simple as a tin of anchovies can cost nearly this much.
you would need a alien-lobster race coming in 200 years to eat up all the anchovies first.
monkeys paw: USD is no longer used
Yes, but society has moved past the use of money and established a socialist world government.
finger curls closed on the monkey paw
When I thought the world had a future, I would have opted for cryogenics.
But I am 100% that we are on our way to the big reset button.
Not necessarily extinction, per se. But a societal bottleneck where a man-made catastrophe throws the survivors back technologically and we have to start the climb all over.
Getting past that point to the realm of actually achieving the technology necessary to unfreeze me seems unlikely. So cryogenics is just death with a preserved corpse.
I'll take death. The sooner the better, lately.
i see so you'd live in best of times as much as possible instead of skipping to the great reset. i dont think we can get set back that far simple because of GMO of plants and global trade. also refined metals would still exist. a car engine can rust or break but the engine can be melted into farm equipment. so we are safe from bronze age. id say we would be a cross between iron age with modern tech
Are you sure about that?
Because the thing that most people never consider with "post apocalypse" scenarios is "lubrication".
Everything needs it, and for the most part it's petroleum based lubricants. Chains, gears, wind turbines, cogs, wheels, doodads and whazzits....
The machines that create power require regular lubrication and maintenance to prevent them from breaking down. Power, is needed to mine, refine and ship the petroleum...
You see where I'm going with this...
I think I'd go the Bobiverse route so I both get to die and be a self-replicating spaceship.
Ask me this a couple months ago and I'd have opted for freezing me, no question. But I lost my person, and I've realized it's not that I was afraid to die or that I wanted life to go on forever. I wanted the life I had to go on forever. That's gone now. I'll opt for the end date on the tin.
Hmmm would be weird to enter a new world with nobody you know and at best descendants (or Young family members that remember you) that care about you. Yeah I guess if you did enter the freezing chamber you'd be giving up anything that made you happy now
If I could flip a switch and just stop my life like turning off a tv I'd do it immediately. Extending it?! Sheesh
I don't want to die, but I don't want to live.
I just wanna be a ghost floating around, watching everything. Like watching a TV show with real characters, real emotions, deaths are real and no "Somehow, Palpatine Has Returned" shenanigans.
Unfreeze me for a week each year. I get to spend a day catching up on what's happened, mourning the dead, and then a few days exploring what's new, and then a day planning next year's excursions.
I'd like to retire till I'm incapable of taking care of myself. Then freeze my head
Most days, I wish for another asteroid.
Humans have plagued this planet too long.
Only if I can sync up my cryo pod with my wife. I'd have to have someone to share the future with
I don't believe we have the tech yet, so I'm not gonna trust any such thing, its probabky snake oil.
But assuming that regulatory bodies around the world has already certified and approved it (meaning the
"dethaw""unfreezing" part has already been solved and is working), I would probably skip like 5 years at a time, watch all the TV shows and movies, then skip 5 years, repeat...Otherwise, I wouldn't touch that thing with a meter stick. Snake oil.
thats why im assuming the science works without any drawbacks. i was thinking that would cool to see cultural slide show, but at some point you'd probably not get reference and you would be able to tell what's sci fi or what product placement. there would be words that start popping up that you wouldn't know.
the period pieces of the future will probably be fun like how would they depict the 2020s and 2010s
it's not solved, it's just companies saying that they think it will be solved in the future
"dethaw"
Uh, retire. I bet it's awful to be transported to the future, where no one knows you personally, and you don't even know anything in the future.
that is kinda the appeal that its new and unknown; its something novel to explore. losing people you know know is a big price, you could hope that someone comes with you into the cyrochamber
where no one knows you personally, and you don’t even know anything in the future
That's my life already. So I guess it should be me, maybe they can fix my health and maybe I could live more comfortably+freely and learn a little more. Some symbiotic cyborg tech would be nice too, but maybe happy/purposeful revival is already a stretch.
This is a great listen if you want to know about what’s going on with cryogenics https://www.thisamericanlife.org/354/mistakes-were-made/act-one-8
Freeze my ass right now.
Can we freeze someone else? I think we could fix things tbh.