Google's WebP

fucking Telegram automatically converts any webp sent in a message to a fucking sticker

I didn't want that. I want the ability to view the image, including zooming in and panning, and telegram forcing it into a sticker kills that completely

Wait am I the only one who actually likes WEBP and is cheering for JPEG to finally die ? 😭

webp is absofuckinglutely inferior to JPEG-XL and that one is where you actually have that problem. I’m literally providing an avif-fallback on my website, because otherwise pretty much no browser would support anything.

(Speaking of it, avif is also superior to webp.)

for my use cases of memes or a PowerPoint type thing once in a while for school. Literally any image format works for me. I don't care about quality (as long as it's not REALLY bad) and just want to get the image from Google to the PowerPoint, and somehow GOOGLES own image format fails to work for GOOGLES PowerPoint product.
I don't understand how you can not support your own format 10 years after it came out.

pro tip by the way, you can open it in Microsoft paint then "save as -> .PNG" to get Google slides/whatever to accept it.

(before someone recommends alternatives, im talking about use on a locked down school computer. I can't use alternative software that's better because they block images in WIKIPEDIA, no shot for using an actual foss software lmao)

I recently put in a lot of hours for a software system to be able to handle webp just as well as every other image format it already accepted. I put in a lot of work as well. Hadn't heard about it for a while, but saw the feature release statement for the new version I knew my changes were in. It wasn't on there. So I reached out to my contact and asked if there was an issue or did it get bumped to a later version or what? So she told me the marketing team that do the release statements decided not to include it. They stated for one, people already expect common formats to be handled. Saying you now handle a format looks bad, since people know you didn't handle it before and were behind the curve. The second (probably more important) reason was nobody knew what webp even was and it's only something technical people care about (they probably said nerds, but my contact translated). So no regular customer would be interested and it could only lead to confusion and questions.

I hope somebody is happy with the work I put in tho. Somebody is going to drag a webp into the system and have it be accepted. Someday.... I hope...

in my honest opinion, it’s a real shame that webp isn’t widely supported. it’s actually really great: it has awesome lossless compression, it’s so much smaller than a png while not losing any quality, it supports animation and loops, etc. it’s like jpg, png, and gif rolled into one format.

The giant jpeg square artefact on the side of Homer's head in the first frame undermines the message somewhat.

Just change the file extension to *.png. Works every time.

I'm working on a project which generates images in multiples sizes, and also converts to WEBP and AVIF.

The difference in file size is significant. It might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people.

Here's an example (the filename is the width):

Also, using the <picture></picture> element, if the users' browsers don't support (or block) AVIF/WEBP, the original format is used. No harm in using them.

(I know this is a meme post, but some people are taking it seriously)

Since we're here and someone may find it useful, I use this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dont-accept-webp/

As someone who sometimes needs a quick and dirty stock image for my work, webp is the bane of my existence. The work computers won't let me visit sites or install programs/extensions to convert the image, and my document processing programs have no fucking clue what to do with the format. There is an option in Microsoft edge to edit image, and it will dump the result as a .png which is the only workaround I've found.

.jxl is the better image format anyway

I love webp though

Stop trying to make .webp happen. It’s not going to happen.

The funniest thing is that even some of Google's own products don't accept Webp, like Google Voice.

Just don't let Google kill JPEG XL.

How many people that are clinging to JPEG are also hating anti-AI people for being "Luddites"?

No webp for me, just because Google is pushig it and that is suspect.

Lemmy uses webp for profile pics.

skill issue

Relevant XKCD

Now try to find somewhere which accepts apng or mng. I'll wait. ;)

Not the fault of the format

Tbh, for myself I either want lossless (eg. professional photographs for an app) or don't care about size, due to small volume (eg. my own pics and vids) and also kinda want the originals. And in today's time, bandwidth isn't lacking (for most people, including me). So everything's just a png.

Yeah, man, gotta use mozjpeg.

What is being implied here? That Website A encourages you to download an image from them in WEBP format, but you cannot then upload that image to Websites B through Z because those sites do not support WEBP?

I hate it so much. Just stick to jpg.

The real difference is between gif and animated webp... Even fewer places accept animated webp than normal webp and those that do often don't even show it right (looking at you slack emojis) which is a travesty as the file size difference is huge