Requiring a cover letter? Guess you're getting an additional copy of my resume then. Has all the relevant information already.
do people still write those?
they shouldn't.
Hey ChatGPT ..
I'd rather create a cover letter than waste time on selection criteria.
I have a few saved cover letters that cover certain role types.
I either copy and paste that in or attach them.
Regardless, getting nowhere with the job search. The job market is cooked.
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and this just popped up in my feed.
look at you, showing off a reply. i just get ghosted.
I've been putting out 20-50 applications a week since September. So far I get a handful of rejections every day and I've gotten a grand total of 3 first round interviews
I went all out applying in about August last year and I am at about 550+ applications.
I've probably put in about 30+ today alone.
I've had about 6 interviews and only 2 of them were from applications I made, the rest were organised by recruiters that contacted me.
Spoke to an old colleague of mine that did a similar job to me, he got the axe from our company after I left and it took him about 300 applications to get 3 interviews and then finally a job.
Unfortunately for me, I took a role in a niche area because I needed a visa at the time and moved onto another role afterwards but I have too little experience in that area to land another role in it.
So, my main focus is too long ago to land a role, my latest experience is too little to land a role, and my main experience is too niche for me to find any roles.
Speaking to a few recruiters and they all say the same thing, 300+ applications on every role they advertise.
I've managed to get two first round interviews, and I'm a "perfect candidate" for one and have been invited to a second interview. They dropped a surprise drug test that wasn't mentioned at any point before, and while they won't find any hard drugs, THC is legal in my state. So if I get past the second interview, I have to just hope they don't care about thc.
At least if they do, I'll have wasted their time as much as mine, and more importantly, their money on the tests.
I'm a hiring manager occasionally and I never got a cover letter and I don't care for it. It'll probably be written by AI anyway. Your interview tells me 80% of what I need to know.
but how do we get to the interview.
I have a PhD and the most I get from applying to a job is the email confirming my submission. then ghosted.
It took me 600 applications to get my first job. Now I work at $FAANG. Your full-time job, until you get a job, is applying to everything
2 things:
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It's a numbers game. Keep applying all the time. Sad reality but nothing we as pleebs can do to change this.
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You probably already do this, but gear your resume to the job description. Provide examples for the qualities the hiring manager is looking for.
Bonus: I've recommended hiring someone with less education over higher education because I knew they would fit better with our team. Worse than someone that doesn't have skills is someone that can't work with my team.
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Cover letters are one of the few things I've found AI is decent at producing. I give it my resume, the job description, and tell it to write of a cover letter based on those. The employer will most likely skim it or not read it at all, so it doesn't need to be super detailed. Of course, make sure to double-check it for hallucinations.
Of course, make sure to double-check it for hallucinations.
I've been mucking about with a local instance of llama
1st weekend, i got it ruining. i pointed it at the oxygen not included wiki, and asked it a few questions. A couple of weeks later, I pointed it at my linked in prifile, which needed updated. I told it my new job title and to write a new summary
About half way down, it had
<job title> | Oxygen not included aficionado
🤣
people on LinkedIn swear on cover letters, but i applied to 30+ jobs with 50/50 cover letter usage, the 4 interviews i got were with non-cover letter applications
Same for me. ngl, it appears to me that the cover letter hurts me more than it helps. Though... I really do use ai to make it so... Maybe that's why.
A lot of automated application portals seem to require it... Considering where AI is at I see that declining in the future however
in my experience it literally doesn't matter whether you include one or not
It didnt matter when hunans read applications, now, its an effort filter and an auto-reject if you dont make the computer happy.
I can tell you, as a hiring manager I never once looked at a cover letter. Let me see what your resume tells about you.
As a manager that has to do dozens of performance reviews, stop using AI to write your self eval. You used to give me a bulleted list that was quick and human readable. Im gonna start putting character limits on them because all AI is doing is wasting my time
Nah. You don't need a cover letter.
This may be specific to my sector (government), but every job posting requires a highly detailed cover letter that addresses numerous specific criteria outlined in some departmental rubric. It takes forever and requires sifting through verbose, corporate-slop documents to grasp their internal jargon and values, etc etc
highly detailed cover letter that addresses numerous specific criteria outlined in some departmental rubric. It takes forever and requires sifting through verbose, corporate-slop documents to grasp their internal jargon and values, etc etc
Sounds like an actually decent use case for an LLM LMAO
"Give me money and I'll do shit for you". Cover letter complete.
Hang on, you're speaking the wrong language here and need to use wasted time words instead.
"Through our mutually agreed arrangement we can accomplish the organizational goals within satisfactory requirements while being cognizant of profits and budgetary availabilities."
So are shitty crops just a thing now, like Instagram tilt?
