What are some alternatives to bars that stay open late for folks that don't drink alcohol?
Bars are notable for staying open late, but I'm not really familiar with alternatives that might operate similarly. I think many cafés (at least around my area) tend to close a few hours earlier by comparison, which would be my go-to for an alternative otherwise, so what other options are there?
It depends where you live, but my go-to was 24 hr cafes and other food places, but there are also other activities like late night fishing, long drives (or rides), night photography, etc
But my house has WiFi and coffee and it's basically my internet cafe with random children/wife/cat coming and going at various times. My favorite thing to do at nighttime with friends is go longboarding or biking. Shit is awesome.
Lol my wife and I absolutely used to go to 24 hour grocery stores at like midnight on weekends back before we had kids. We both love cooking so it was fun to slowly peruse the aisles looking for random things we hadn't noticed before and coming up with ways to use them.
Lame I guess, but neither of us likes bars that much and we couldn't afford to go out that often anyway.
Different strokes for different folks, and all that :)
Night owls still need groceries and it's best to shop when you're more awake and alert. When I worked a graveyard job, Winco was a lifesaver. I thought if better to include more for those who might be interested.
Depends on the person. I facilitate recovery groups, and you see a variety. some people get triggered simply by seeing a bottle, or a beer. Some have absolutely no problem
In my experience it depends on the bar. I have a local that I like that is very laid back and relaxed bar scene, you still get some rowdy groups, but it's not like fighting for the bartenders attention or blasting music. Perfectly easy to go in alone or with friends, sit down and shoot the shit for a few hours. Doesn't really matter what's in your glass.
I omitted my personal reasoning in the OP to avoid sidetracking the conversation, but since it's had some time to develop & you ask, I just personally don't like the smell of much alcohol or the erratic behavior it causes. The former I just find unpleasant, meanwhile the latter makes me uncomfortable & anxious on top of being annoyed by the scents.
As someone being sober, I'd feel like I'm half-expected to be responsible for some of those getting drunk around me (even if I'm not, really), and it just makes it hard for me to relax as I'd like.
I could, and I may end up caving and finding a bar with an atmosphere I don't mind, but I was hoping there might be some alternatives to spaces that I generally just find uncomfortable to be in. Also, and this just comes down to the area I'm in right now, many of the bars have a specific style/theme to them here that I don't care for whatsoever, at least from the little bit I've looked around.
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TVS ON EVERY SURFACE AT TOP VOLUME
TUNED TO MULTIPLE CHANNELS SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE THERE ARE ALWAYS COMMERCIALS ASSAULTING YOUR SENSES FROM AT LEAST TWO DIRECTIONS
That's 100% understandable. I don't really "get" bars. So I don't go. I don't know what to do there.
If I want to go out at night, I go to clubs, but they have some of the same issues with drunk people.
Aside from that, I have hobbies to share with like-minded people. For example I go to an open couple dancing (Forró) event as often as I can.
It really depends where you are - some places have a lively late night culture, others not so much.
All night diners, 24 hour fast food places are really the only alternatives here (though you could count movie theatres with late showings, I guess).
But (unless you have personal reasons for not being around alcohol and drinkers), you can totally go to a bar with a vibe you like and just hang out drinking soda. Bonus points if that bar has something cool available aside from just booze (barcades, live music venues, etc.).
If you're not looking to specifically be around people, you could also just check out some green space outdoors, but keep your wits about you and use your judgement - some places are lovely to chill at 3:00 am, some would be if it wasn't for the sketchy folks shooting up.
One of my absolute favourites is an arcade bar near me that stays open late. I don't usually drink there but I'll go and hang out with mates, get some chips and play some retro arcade. Super chill vibe and people there all seem way more chill than most pubs or bars I've been to!
Echoing the outside thing. I love to sit on a deck chatting with friends on a warm summer night. There are some biking trails with minimal street crossings nearby that make for a great late night stress-relief ride with or without a friend. I have met a lot of snowboard/stoner/skater bros late at night on trails. Find an abandoned bridge or other public infrastructure and watch the stars while munching on some 24h takeout.
We have a sandwich shop that runs 24 hrs from Tuesday morning until Saturday night. I've picked up late night supper there and seen people playing cards, etc and just generally hanging out for long stretches.
When I was younger my buddies and I went to a 24 hr diner and played magic into the wee hrs, occasionally leaving only when the earliest breakfast crowd started to roll in.
I hope you tipped well, lol. my tabletop RPG group may have been known to do this. the waitress kept us up on coffee, so yeah, we might have tipped for the time rather than the percentage of the bill. probably the only reason we never got kicked out.
I had a group like this when I was the graveyard shift at Denny's. I'd get them three apps for eight people, slap down two liter jugs of coke, and they'd collectively leave me about twenty bucks for basically no work on my part. Nice kids, they were usually in there once a week and they always called ahead to make sure it was okay.
They played Vampire: Masquerade, which honestly seems like a depressing setting but they were into it.
Pre covid we had a game group we found on meetup. We'd go on Wednesdays to Fuddruckers, buy an appetizer and some drinks and then just rove from table to table and play what game seemed good. Made some neat casual friends that way. Our group would rent out the back room every week. Post covid we couldn't afford the appetizer (went back to school for a better job. Poverty yay!) so our game nights have been at home.
When I was younger, there were some places with a club atmosphere that didn't serve. For whatever reason, no booze. They became hang out spots for teens and the like. There was also a strong coffee shop culture, and one or two that stayed open just as late as bars. But in a post-covid world, many of those places shut down and new places like that close early.
Several of my friends in my mid 20s didn't drink, so we usually would hang out at hookah bars. They are great, especially if they are allowed to serve food where you live. Most at least serve tea and other non-alcoholic beverages. I can give you a few pointers for first-timers if you are interested.
Pool halls. I think some bowling venues. Less common, we have a cafe full of hundreds (maybe thousands) of board and card games. They’re only open until 11pm, but that’s still a place to socialize and meet up with people at night.
I've kinda tried D&D in the past and it's not really to my tastes tbh. I'd be down for other tabletop games, but I need to look around some more to find groups playing what I might like.
I live in an area with a lot of muslim people, as they don't drink they often go to Shisha bars or Dessert bars. There's also a few tea house type places, fancy dark late night places that do posh teas.
heh. I checked my city of 100,000. Nada. Next town over. They've got 60,000. Zilch. Next town over. 20,000. Nope. I went the other direction. 120,000. Nah. 125,000. Null. 450,000 folk in my county and not one ping on that map. I know there are mocktails served just about everywhere I go. I'll try to flesh out the map because it looks like it's just got Portland and LA on my coast. I just make it to bars like once or twice a quarter.
Humans will build a bar as soon as there are more than two people that want to drink but you typically need much larger populations before you get a sober community at all. You usually only get dedicated sober spaces when those communities get big enough.
Fortunately, as many others on this thread have pointed out, there are many sober options beyond dedicated sober spaces.
Unfortunately, here in Ottawa the McDonald's best enjoyed late at night is closed forever :( RIP 99 Rideau, you were sketchy as fuck but wonderful for those who liked dinner and a show after the bars closed (and knew to keep your mouth shut, lest you become part of the performance)
Clubs. Activites. Local Theater. Rehearsals go to something like 10 pm quite often. They are social, fun, and you have a common goal. Drinking is not allowed.
Restaurants are also open quite late, but a dinner is more expensive, and they often turn to bars. That said there is a huge variety in bar, not all are either the start the party here before clubs open or drink all night to forget and tons are family friendly places where you can, also get a soft drink and enjoy their terrasse/garden
If you're looking for late-night alternatives to bars and don't drink alcohol, consider visiting a C2 hookah lounge. These spots provide a relaxing and social atmosphere without the need for alcohol. You can enjoy a variety of hookah flavors, engage in great conversations, and unwind in a laid-back environment. Many C2 hookah lounges stay open late, offering a perfect place to chill after hours. It’s a great way to enjoy the evening with friends or even meet new people who share the same interests. So, next time you're out late and want something different, give a C2 hookah lounge a try!
My favorite local bar (a microbrewery) sells the brewery stuff just there in cans. I'ma take that lemon drop home so my besties from out of town can have it at our game nights (they like lemon drops too). That way we don't have to have our game nights at the bar. I don't think they want us taking up four tables playing Eldritch Horror or Gloomhaven at the microbrewery. It'd be kind of fun tho.