Nextcloud cries foul over Google Play Store app rejection
Nextcloud cries foul over Google Play Store app rejection
Exclusive: Claims policy change is really just a way to squeeze out competition
App developer here. Our company went through this exact thing, to a T.
After a lot of back & forth with Support we implemented another feature which requires full file system access and they suddenly accepted it. Such a bullshit way to do it, but hey, it worked.
What was it replaced with? I thought All files access already was full fs access
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That's a great idea you've got there. Would be a shame if something happened to it.
They bullied Syncthing the same way. Fortunately, Syncthing-fork is still developed and available on F-droid.
I understand a well-curated app store (which Play Store is not) placing some limits on apps getting all files access. In a modern security model, that's not a permission most apps should have, however synchronization and file management apps obviously should have it.
Looks like the nextcloud one is also on fdroid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.nextcloud.client/
And if you grant access to your own apps, but deny them to your competitors, that is totally a monopoly abuse
And it should be met with steadily increasing fines until they stop it or go bankrupt. Both is fine with me.
Was going to comment the same, this issue has existed for some time for other apps. LibreTorrent ran into the same issue and now the F-Droid version is their full-featured app while the Google Play version is restricted due to Google.
Interesting that Nextcloud managed to last this long on Google Play without running into the same limitations (until now that is).
Just switch to the F-Droid version.
Better: make sure all the apps you use come from F-Droid
This works very well for tech enthusiasts and people who self-host nextcloud at home.
The issue is when you are a government or university, it becomes harder to get all your users (which are probably not all tech savvy) to install a third party app store deal with the Android warnings about installing from third-parties, etc etc.
And this is probably the user base Google are targeting with this move (assuming it's malicious) . When the higher ups complain that their files are not syncing and need to install things with a special procedure they sometimes wonder why they are not using M365 or Google which seems hassle free.
Not to mention the "see this big alert saying this isn't safe? Well for this one time it /is/ safe so do so" While curbing the mentality of "oh it was safe last time so it must be safe this time"
I installed a few apps from F-Droid that the play store decided to just take over instead and updated them. I think antennapod and signal.
No way to stop it as far as I can tell.
It's not as simple as telling people to use F-Droid. People with non-rooted phones won't get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle. Unless I'm misremembering? I wouldn't know because I run rooted CalyxOS now. Last time I used F-Droid on a plain Android phone is a while ago for me.
My phone is not getting CalyxOS updates anymore. Gotta wipe it all and move to lineageos now. Man I hate mobile operating systems. I need good linux phones right now. Android can go to hell.
I have automatic upgrades on my non-rooted phone. I use droidify but i'm pretty sure the official F-droid client works the same way.
People with non-rooted phones won’t get automatic updates via F-Droid which is a big hurdle.
Not true if the app to update targets a high enough API version (I think API 34 or 35) and if you use F-Droid Basic.
NOTE: The Basic version of F-Droid Client has a reduced feature set (e.g. no nearby share and no panic feature). It targets Android 13 and can do unattended updates without privileged extension or root.
I get update notifications from f-droid but have to update inside the f-droid app.
That and the process of being audited for your app to gain access to Google Drive is apparently a nightmare on top of being super expensive.
No wonder so many apps don't even bother adding the ability to sync files with like Joplin.
I hope the EU eventually crack down on that bullshit.
When I saw the process to add Google drive support to an app I thought: "wouldn't be easier to just discontinue the public APIs?"
If I was a dev I would immediately remove the integration instead of paying the required thousands (yearly!) to keep it. Then in the app explain the situation to the customer, add a referral link to Dropbox, onedrive or other competitors
Get linage OS on your phone and stop fucking around.
Yeah I just moved to GrapheneOS. Stood up my own NextCloud server too. Fuck Google.
Not possible in Samsung. And there are no better camera hardware else where. Gotta take picture of my cats ...
were your priorities actually taking photos, you'd be using an actual camera.
This and the fact gallery cloud provider API stuff is locked down to whoever Google gives permission to should get a lawsuit.
And not even eff interested? Or probably drowning with other issues
EFF - is this the only org that fights these excesses? Anyone else in US?
Google be Like : just use Google Drive
What if , no….
God I hate google
I use FolderSync. Works well and I prefer one app synchronizing files than 6. I still use the Nextcloud app for files I don’t sync that I need access to, but overall it’s really bad. The camera upload erased a ton of my pictures on a vacation. I deleted the synced pictures on my phone storage and the Nextcloud app overwrote the images as the new photos had the same file name.
"We don't care," - Google, probably.