Dont let anybody convince you the protest is not working, otherwise they wouldn't be doing all of this in response.
I left reddit and don't intent to come back, but for those protesting, I wish you all the luck
I personally don't think the protests are working. But they are getting reddit admins to show they have no interest in the communities on reddit and as a result, are helping push everyone to wonderful new communities that don't generate revenue for the owners of reddit. So I just may be misunderstanding the goal of the protest, but it's definitely doing something!
How do you define "working"? I think it was pretty obvious from the beginning they were never going to change their minds
However they accomplished
A bunch of negative media coverage
Completely crashing the site
A terrible AMA that showed spez is not a good CEO and the company is not profitable
A select few accessibility apps are whitelisted (for now)
Free drama for all of us
The IPO is fucked regardless of what reddit does next, they are in a lose lose situation. Anyone who thought they would turn around and change their mind is delusional and doesn't understand how maniacal CEOs work
What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that there is no turning back. There is no reason for them to keep ANY mod that participated in the blackout or said anything negative about the API decision even if they reopen and try to appease them now. Might as well mutually self destruct
A better way of phrasing it would be that reddit is saying the protest isn't having much of an effect. Which is clearly not the case. Or that the protest is working in the sense that it's dramatically disrupting reddit. The stated goals of getting them to change their policies seems unlikely to come to fruition though.
If the protests weren't working at all, reddit's admins wouldn't care and wouldn't be reacting to those protests. That they're taking such heavy handed actions to change things would suggest that the protests are working.
That doesn't mean they'll succeed in the end. I don't know. But they're certainly working to some degree.
Well, not "everyone" is choosing to see that, sadly:-(. I suppose I get it, they don't want to hear that what they love is gone. It IS sad, but it's also the truth.
This is actually far more self-destructive than Digg.
The Digg Exodus was mainly down to just stupidity on the part of a whole team and the users deciding they weren't going to take it. Rexxit is due to pure malice on the part of one person.
The incredible thing is that the July1 day-of-reckoning for every 3rd party app user is less than 2 weeks away. Like, the fires will barely be extinguished when they throw gasoline on a heap of tinder. No time at all to let things cool off.
I mean, to be realistic Reddit will remain a top 0.1% site for years. But they're really making sure that its all downhill from here.
Well, I'm not convinced that the C-suite at Snoo Inc aren't also co-signing this, but Hufflepuff McSpeztron certainly wants to play the big baddie, so the big baddie he shall be.
I wish all remaining redditors luck on making this #rexxit very painful for him.
Subs that are coming up with creative ways to protest is everything that is right with the internet. I hope more of them continue to make Lemmy/Kbin their new home. A lot of these mods are showing their true dedication and it's only deepening my appreciation for what we had (before Reddit irrecoverably broke itself). We seem to be in the bust of the social media boom/bust cycle. looking forward to things growing around here!
I got over leaving reddit for good but I'm a bit worried about the hellhole it's seemingly becoming with all the exposure it's able to give horrible ideas. I won't be surprised if it goes full fascist next week Twatter style.
Probably another replay of the parable of the Nazi bar. But as the end of the article says, people who don’t want to hang out at the Nazi bar will just go elsewhere.
At least if things get to that point, we'll hopefully have had some time to really build up places for those people to go.
Yeah I dropped back in to UnitedKingdom a sub that was already highly astroturfed by the Tory party social.media workers (you could see them come on shift) now every post is just right wing. The abortion conviction thread posta recently was practically written by the right wing evangelic think tanks from the US.
Yeah. That legitimacy problem is always an important one. I keep saying the same thing to the "good" christians and muslims around me.
You might be, and are as far as I can tell, truly good people who have faith in something honestly. The name you chose for your "honest personal belief", though, gives credence to the organized hate cults you share that name with.
There was Google+, which happened a few years ago, but it didn't get used all that much to begin with, and Google tried to push it on everyone, making it even more unpopular.
I'm not surprised. To my understanding, IAF was only permitting people post hardcore pornography, for example, so... they flew pretty close to the sun, there.
Obviously a pretty effective form of protest, in terms of being disruptive, but I can't imagine a world where that doesn't bring down the boot.
not quite they basically said they would only enforce Site wide rules and let the users vote what content they wanted. bots came in posting only fans nonsense that mods keeps out then the community picked up and went with it. I am not saying they didnt encourage it but they didnt "only permit it". mods are a lot like many other hidden jobs from refuse collection to IT operations teams, everyone thinks they don't do a lot until they stop working and the shit builds up.
Why should it bring down the boot? Porn is acceptable on reddit, users voted to make the sub NSFW in democratic fashion (following the wishes of Spez), NSFW content is opt-in, and moderators control the subreddits they moderate.
None of this goes against reddit rules or policies.
Because it wasn't a porn sub before. They had, what, eleven million users? If you can't see the problem there, I think you're being a little disingenuous.
Was it only hardcore porn? All I saw was 50% memes about nudity allowed and 50% basic nudity like boobs and pussy reveal by gonewild / only fans posters. Divnt even see softcore solo content let alone hardcore porn.
Except a small number that probably opted in for NSFW for getting spoilers or other non nude purposes, most already have nude content present in their feeds and use alt accounts. Going by the memes many did seem unaware of the decision to allow NSFW content, but given the site wide opt in it seems reasonable to allow.
Was it only hardcore porn? All I saw was 50% memes about nudity allowed and 50% basic nudity like boobs and pussy reveal by gonewild / only fans posters. Divnt even see softcore solo content let alone hardcore porn.
... Did you just imply that a "pussy reveal" and "basic nudity" isn't "softcore solo [pornography]"?
Except a small number that probably opted in for NSFW for getting spoilers or other non nude purposes, most already have nude content present in their feeds and use alt accounts.
This is some high octane copium. You're just gonna broadly assume that most users consume porn on Reddit? Like that has any relevance, even if it was true?
Going by the memes many did seem unaware of the decision to allow NSFW content, but given the site wide opt in it seems reasonable to allow.
No, it's putting porn on people's screens without consent.
Edit: Entire mod team received a 7-day suspension. I still cannot login on my account.
Edit2: Admins seem to be saying this was done to prevent subs spamming sexually explicit content. On r/MildlyInteresting we did NOT do this or intend to do this, as was clear in the update that the admins manually removed:
To be clear - this does NOT mean we are allowing pornographic, sexually explicit or illegal content. Our existing rules will still apply. We are simply embracing our proud history of user-curated lewd fruit and vegetable content. This history includes, but is not limited to, photos of oddly-shaped produce, landscape features reminiscent of genitalia, or other quirky sights that might cause one to raise an eyebrow. https://i.imgur.com/DwXEb8K.png
Edit3: The entire r/MildlyInteresting team has been unsuspended and reinstated.
ModMail from a different admin (not ModCoC) explains that we were apparently "swept up in actions" that they were taking against "communities that were encouraging sexually explicit content". Situation remains really unclear, and the fact we were a mistake does not excuse r/interestingasfuck being targeted or any of the other 5 subs.
Edit4: Please be aware that NSFW content on Reddit is opt-in. Nobody who did not manually opt-in to see "adult content" was exposed to it through r/interestingasfuck and other subs. We might have been a mistake, but that doesn't excuse the others.