Fediverse @lemmy.world mesa @piefed.social 2mo ago

Kagi (paid search engine): "Peertube results now show up in regular searches, plus you can filter by "source" to see more Peertube content."

Better search results with no ads. Welcome to Kagi (pronounced kah-gee), a paid search engine that gives power back to the user.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29244629

You can also search the Fediverse directly

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I've used them about a year and glad to see this kind of improvement. They are not perfect but still much better than the free options so far.

Only concern I've had has been around the AI stuff they are providing... So far it's optional and a separate piece from the normal search. Time will tell there I suppose.
- At the very least their AI Integration Philosophy has a good and nuanced view on the topic. So as long as they actually stick to that those ideas when integrating features it should be fine.
I love Kagi and gladly pay for it. Nice devs too.
Kagi is goshin' awesome.
“Paid search engine” <— no thanks.
- Suit yourself. They aren't perfect but I find value in them so far.
  
  freemium pls :cry:
  
  although good freemium examples like proton mail for example seem too good to be true with free vpn and all the jazz. always such a shady feeling when using such services
- If you're not paying, you're the product.
  
  I'm not paying for my self hosted searxng and I have more control over my search than any kagi user.
  
  if you are paying, you are still the product
- There is a free trial and there was 1 month for free 2 months ago. You can try it and see if you think its worth the price
  
  I tried it and i personally believe its not worth the price, but testing it is better than just refusing the concept from the start
- Fine for you. I’m just glad there’s an option besides “sell your soul” and “invest hundreds of hours and dollars into self-hosting”.
- Upvoted.
  
  I have a counterpoint to those claiming that paid are better. By using a privacy oriented search engine, then they don't know exactly who you are. In theory just your IP. Maybe fingerprinting.
  
  When paying they know exactly who you are. You have to trust them.
  
  So in one case you can protect yourself, in the other you have to trust them.
  
  Also, Kagi also uses the Russian index Yandex 😑
  
  Kagi Privacy Pass
- I love to mock people who use the library by shouting "If you're not the payer then you're the product!"
  
  Westerners are so baby-brained on this shit. Kagi can take your money and still spy on you. Yandex can not take your money and still not bother caching your search history, because there's no good way for them to monetize it. Nevermind GitHub or Wikipedia or literally any other public good being hosted on any website anywhere.
  
  The delusion that you're safe using a free service is matched only by the delusion that you're protected because you paid someone money.
Do they have the equivalent for Lemmy?

E: Found it using Kagi... It just wasn't turned on for me.
Does anyone still think their data isn't being sold even if they pay for a service? Plus now it's associated to your payment information. These are the same guys that spent all their runway funding on Tshirts, I don't think they're the sharpest knives in the drawer.
- Baseless.
- Does anyone still think their data isn’t being sold even if they pay for a service?
  
  Very possible they're too small to have a meaningful contingent of buyers. But I wouldn't bank on it.
  
  Apparently we're in the minority. Everyone here is sure it's all aboveboard and shipshape.
- You can use privacy pass and pay in crypto
  
  I'm not fathoming what Privacy Pass gains you, it's tokens generated from your account, the chain of possession is obvious throughout. The tokens get used up and removed from your account and the logged-in browser extension generates more, but there's no "privacy" involved there.
  
  Fair enough on the crypto.
Using Kagi genuinely makes me happier, if only because I don’t have to look at a ton of garbage before I find what I need. It’s pleasant to use.
I use Yandex a lot now for not censoring me. Maybe I'll have to try this.
- It is funny to see people relentlessness stanning a paid service that's built on a notoriously fraud prone crypto stack, then getting paranoid about something about as sophisticated as Lexus Nexus because it's hosted out of Evil Country.
  
  I hope nobody here bothers to interogate where their torrents are being hosted from too closely.
- I'm not a spy or part of the government, but Yandex is Russian... I tried them like 10 years ago, but I wouldn't take my chances with them.
  
  Its a search engine, what are they going to do, give some guys search history to Putin?
  
  I generally use it for finding streaming sites.
- I'll only switch to yandex if it's obvious that Google (via startpage) is censoring my results. Or if I'm looking for a torrent or something.
  
  Ya that is the bulk of my use, streaming sites and such.
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