The best response came right afterwards
This one has been making the rounds, and I have to say, we need to consider that maybe the answer is The Last Stand is a very bad movie.
Look it's exceptionally bad, but it does have Gandalf politely rejecting wolverines offer of a free surgical examination.
âI just want a cure to be an OPTION to those who want it.â
âOH SO YOU SUPPORT EUGENICS NOW?!â
Was it an option for Angel in that movie?
I always hated this plot line in these movies. No one has any empathy for the struggles Rogue is going though. Everyone else can be both a living weapon and have a normal life, but Rogue has to choose. If you wanted to framed this as trans metaphor, everyone else looks like a bunch of bigots. Honestly, the more and more you breakdown what Xavier is doing, the more and more he just looks like a different kind of villain. Seriously, how many of the mutants powers ever get explored for non-combat reasons? If this was just about adults, it'd be one thing, but this guy is in charge of children who are being kept away from their parents.
But nope, in Storm's eyes, Rogue is perfect just the way she is. As a living weapon.
I think this may have been were I started thinking there's something wrong with Hollywood and comic book writers.
The Doom Patrol hits that plot point a lot harder than the X-Men. The tv series is excellent.
It really is fantastic as a show. The sex ghost episode is hilarious
Edit: also the phrase "disembodied chumbawumba" entered my lexicon from that show.
Seriously, how many of the mutants powers ever get explored for non-combat reasons? If this was just about adults, itâd be one thing, but this guy is in charge of children who are being kept away from their parents.
We do see glimpses here and there, but most of it takes background to the fighting, or is shortly ended because the school blew up, the rest of humanity ordered a genocide on all Mutants, and got caught in the crossfire, etc.
I feel like that X-Men could benefit from taking a leaf off of Transformers, and having a series set up after peace was made, when everyone's trying to readjust to peacetime, and deal with all of that.
But nope, in Stormâs eyes, Rogue is perfect just the way she is. As a living weapon.
In fairness, Storm is shown to be wrong in saying that there's nothing wrong with Rogue in the rest of the movie, and that she doesn't need to be cured.
The tone of the movies always felt off. Someone, anyone should have called out Storm and sided with Rogue's choice. Even if they disapprove of what Storm is saying, they just silently sat there.
Lmao i didn't even get past "kills everything she touches" without my adhd brain flying away and imagining how sad and lonely she must be and how on order to have human touch, she'd have to find somebody either incapable of dying or who can realive themselves. Like a living-dead girl. Also I assumed she was gay for some reason.
You should definitely check out this 20 page short comic: https://imgur.com/gallery/wolverines-job-isnt-always-easy-to-do-I71V6
It's basically that, and Wolverine goes in because his regeneration keeps him alive
(Edit: From Marvel's Ultimate X-Men Vol. 1 #41)
Sheesh that's kinda dark.
Damn, that's a good comic. Dark superhero comics are definitely my thing; Worm/Ward (Parahumans universe by Wildbow, online fiction) are good recommendations if anybody likes this sort of thing
Like Logan?
Nah, Wolverine was canonically cishet last I checked đ€·
Wolverine? He can die, can't he? He's just really really hard to kill, to my knowledge, and just regenerates really really fast. But if she touches somebody and they instantly die.... That won't make much difference. Unless he's ACTUALLY immortal, rather than just effectively/virtually immortal and just really really hard to kill.
That's not even counting the guy that instantly dissolved everyone around him and the X-Men sent Logan to take him out.
Yeah, and all the cure-framing is fucked, but they failed to show this. They are mutants, so changing them into ordinary humans means at least re-writing all the cells in the body, which is way more drastic a change than what we now know as gender transition. This kind of changes is not a fucking cure, it is mutation of different kind, in the terminology of this universe
They are mutants, so changing them into ordinary humans means at least re-writing all the cells in the body, which is way more drastic a change than what we now know as gender transition.
Especially as for some of them, their Mutations are required for them to be compatible with life. You can't meaningfully change that without risking death or serious injury.
It's also rarely shown with much nuance. The cure more or less ends up being portrayed as a way to eradicate Mutants entirely, with the implication that it'll be mandated, rather than as a way to improve quality of life for those with mutations that could harm it, like the one kid who destroyed all organic matter in the radius of a few kilometres, rather than a weaker one to limit a Mutation so it won't cause issues, or remove it if they want.
This is why I don't join fandoms. It's just nicer to like what I like and not have to deal with everybody else's wrong takes.
Gloves don't help?
