There are Copilot ads in the dotnet docs
There are Copilot ads in the dotnet docs
Type of issue Other (describe below) Description It seems someone snuck in a blatant ad for Copilor into the docs: Source file edit adegeo: Convert issue to doc issue format so that it's linked to ...
I am so tired of everyone and everything trying to shove AI down my throat.
My current job’s CEO has done nothing but say we need to do nothing but AI our life to the point where they cut all our old stipends and replaced it with an AI stipend. My last job installed an AI plugin in our browser so we’d feed their llm our data. Everyone has a worthless llm chatbot that no one asked for.
I’m tired man. I’m sick of everything demanding I use this thing so they can try to replace me with it. It’s like being asked to train my replacement.
I fucking booked it from a job after about 2 months because in every fucking meeting the CTO would wax on about how great it would be once we were all replaced by robots and AI. This fucker who clawed his way into his C level position though merit, and hard work, and the same last name as the owner, and all he could do to inspire the team was tell us about how a 91 year old who lost his job to AI was saying how he would be fine. I mean, if he can find a way to be happy, we all can!
Utterly tone deaf, some of these guys, it's amazing. Had a new CEO open a meeting shortly after he started with a story about visiting an apiary (bee farm) with his family. His unironic takeaway which he shared with us, somehow missing the poignant relevance of what he was saying - "It turns out the drones just don't do very much".
It was like he intended an ice breaker with a personal anecdote, and it started out fine, but he couldn't help but just tell literally all of us how he really feels. Amazing.
Same here, my CEO and other board directors did a long video telling that we released an impressive AI feature that will change the world and they didn't even explain what the feature is. It is nothing than text summarizer that will extract relevant keywords. We already did that without LLM. Now in the company, people working on AI things are getting promotion and raises.
Get that shit out of there
There are dotnet docs in the copilot ads.
There are ad docs in the dotnet copilot.
I like how this forum thread has actual thoughtful and objective commentary that all point to how bad this feature is.
I mean, this user does quite eloquently raise a good point: https://github.com/dotnet/docs/issues/45996#issuecomment-2848267714
It's a single link all the way at the bottom of the page, so not really obtrusive. And given that there are people using Copilot this way, it's probably better to give them something to use docs-wise rather than leaving them to Copilot's mercy. The article linked to is also pretty much just instructions on how to do it, no real gushing about how amazing Copilot supposedly is.
That GitHub comment makes my brain hurt and gives me Microsoft community forum advisor (run ChEcKDiSK tO mAYbe fIX tHe ProBLem) and "leave the multi-billion dollar company alone" vibes.
Also it's not a single line - when looking at the source file - and a complete section instead.
GitHub Copilot, as used in the documentation here, is free and integrated into the IDE.
- It's inside the dotnet Docs. dotnet has nothing to do with an IDE. You can code/run dotnet code in any editor or terminal if you like.
- This person assumes that Visual Studio is the only IDE for dotnet. Looks like they never heard of Rider or VS Code or anything else.
I do not think that you can call it an ad if it is for a free tool.
WTF is he defining as an ad? "Advertising is the practice and techniques employed to bring attention to a product or service". The whole section is bascially "Hey you can use Copilot to do this" - that's an ad right there.
Even if you interpret this as encouraging users to pay
Makes no sense. Does this person think ad = you have to pay for it???
it is hardly the first time that dotnet documentation guides users towards paid Microsoft products: are we going to start complaining about all pages with references to Azure next?
- A deployment target is not the same as "AI"
- If a page/section is not named like "How to deploy example app to Azure" then it shouldn't contain any reference to Azure. And yes you should complain about such stuff if it exists.
The only part of this I actually object to is that I don't think that what essentially amounts to 'prompt an LLM' belongs in documentation, although at the very least the page does disclose that the output may be erroneous.
That's basically what the whole issue is about. WTF are you even talking about then? Just shut up and give an upvote.
Overall a totally useless comment.
I'd say a much better point is raised by this comment.
Dotnet Foundation's whole point is to be independent from Microsoft. Why is it then pushing it's AI slop? Even if we take the point of "there are people using it", then why doesn't it talk about JetBrains and their AI, or Claude?
@ChairmanMeow @abbadon420 isn't the whole point of copilot that you *don't* need docs to use it, though? If you're reading the docs anyway, why wouldn't you just read how to do it yourself?
How long until someone asks an LLM how to customize the property names of JSON and it tells them to use github copilot to that 😂
Fuck. Copilot is going to add ads to everything.
Videos, links, random paragraphs. Everything written by a llm will feature 3rd party ads. Taking a page from malware developers, there will be innocuous libraries added that will later morph.
Eventually, we will stop writing software as llms will be all software. Serving ads. Serving you to advertisers.
"Hey watch, what time is it?"
"Time for a sugar snack. Just go to the counter, it is already paid for (by you)."
the first comment "it's free, therefore not an ad" destroyed me on an entirely new level
Looks more like there are copilot ads in .NET docs.Edit: should have reloaded the page before posting the comment
Fixed
How is that an ad? It’s linking to a feature in the IDE.
Is it also an ad when it links to a section to install something via nuget?
Edit: This place has the Donald vibes. Ask a question get downvoted but nobody will explain themselves.
“Advertising is the practice and techniques employed to bring attention to a product or service”
Dotnet Foundation is independent non-profit organization, it should not advertise random bullshit products that are not related to the foundation - which Copilot is not, because it's Microsoft - or at least include options. If you want to include AI usage into your docs, why isn't JetBrains IDE and their AI mentioned?
