"No nation is older than 250"

the u.s. is 'young', relative to the world stage, this is true; but its constitution is among the oldest in the world.. and it is starting to show its age.

So, yeah, that first person is a dumb-ass, but that second comment doesn't really prove anything. I live in a 400 year-old town in this 250 year-old country,

Even ignoring how obviously wrong this is about how old other countries are, America turns 250 in 2026 not 2025 lol

There's a restaurant near me that's been in business since 1472.
They went bankrupt in 2023. Weird kind of feel.

It is wild to me how Americans forget that they built their "nation" upon the genocide of earlier (first) nations, which were there for thousands of years.

China: lol, lmao

France, Switzerland, england, bavaria, brandenburg, vatican, spain, netherlands, denmark, sweden, portugal

I could go on and on

Man, imagine being so fucking dense you literally ignore the nation that created yours, which is still around. Inglun? Wazzat?

Who did the US get independence from, buddy?

Wait till these people find out about Japan.

I've also heard the right say that America is the best and youngest country. Like they seriously think they are the most recent country to be formed.

They also think that America is #1 despite being the "youngest" makes them even extra good.

While the US is pretty old as a state, most societies have a direct continuation from one state to the next. It's not like when France overthrew its monarchy they stopped being France or seeing themselves as French. So they may see their continuous history as much older than the current state, with the Kingdom of France going back to 987.

The US doesn't have a continuous history prior to 1776 because they mostly come from Britain but they denounce their British heritage and they settled in NA but also denounce the heritage of the local peoples there. So the average American sees their entire history as starting at 1776, maybe a little bit further back to include the initial colonies and that's about it.

Dumb people hear something, misunderstand it, and repeat an incorrect version with authority and without any critical thinking. I'm sure this person heard that the US is the oldest existing democracy. The next oldest, depending on the criteria you use, is probably Switzerland at 175+ years. But does this person really think that the US has existed longer than, say, the ancient Egyptians, the Ottomans, the Byzantines, etc.?

The 250 year thing is basically complete BS

You guys think it's bad reading all this online?

Try living here...

Holy fuck. I can't tell if they are a troll or not. Reading that is infuriatingly stupid. No wonder America is in the shemozzle it is now, this idiocy and lack of critical thinking is far too common over there!

There's a certain irony that there are a couple of cases of "my local pub is older than your entire country" in the country in question. For example the White Horse Tavern in Newport, RI.

Rome lasted for 2,000 years because I consider the Byzantines as true Romans.

I dunno, I'm pretty sure Japan is older.

Does this person not understand how dates work?

My country is 900 years old and my people has inhabited these lands before the romans ever dreamed of set foot here.

That is plain ignorance.

Because the concept of a nation state is not much older, no? American Independence and French Revolution were among the first movements.

Isn't it kinda interesting, that the first nation is still a thing? France is in it's 5th iteration.

Even if this were true, this would be anthropic reasoning, which is always suspect. The belief that the present, the here and now, cannot be exceptional will always overlook examples where it is exceptional.

We live in interesting times.

This isn't a facepalm. As any red-blooded American knows, the only country worth mentioning is America. Since all countries of note were founded after America, this OP is correct.

i think the first poster misunderstood a quote and I can't reproduce it anymore either. it was something about no empire lasted more then 250 years? or no government form or something among these lines? it was not about the country disapearing in name or anything, but that it damatically changes in one way or another like completly changing the form of government

I believe the ottoman empire (1299–1922) would like a word.

If I assume by the word "Pub" that they are in the UK, their country has only existed for 103 years. Obviously, that doesn't mean the end of the people, or the pubs, just the end of that system of government and/or territorial border.

There's no shame in it. Constitutions and bills of rights need to be updated as people become more enlightened and civilized. The US would certainly be better off if it had had more constitutional amendments over these 250 years. Maybe then it wouldn't need a revolution.

It probably has a more stable foundation too!

England would like a word. It formed in 927 AD. That means it is 1,098 years old.

How many different countries has your pub survived?

Remember the time we stumbled on an old local church with an American coworker. Yes dude, that thing was over 500 years old when Columbus discovered your continent, allegedly.

c/shitamericanssay

I'm pretty sure the Scandinavian countries are older than counting years with four digits.

To be fair, it's easier to manage a pub than a whole country.

The beginning of egypt is further away to its end than today is from its end

if there weren't people dumb enough to genuinely believe that the earth is flat, then i would assume it was a troll post.

but here we are...

nation is a construct based on race and culture. nation is artificial, think it like a club. if you have a citizenship means you are included to nation but it doesnt mean to you are a part of race or culture. for more reading like there is a science branch called sociology!

Honest to god thought this was a Trump quote or some shit. Like read it in his voice and everything.

Are we sure he hasn't said this?