"No nation is older than 250"
"No nation is older than 250"
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A threads post saying "There has never been another nation ever that has existed much beyond 250 years. Not a single one. America's 250th year is 2025. The next 4 years are gonna be pretty interesting considering everything that's already been said." It has a reply saying "My local pub is older than your country".
While the US is pretty old as a state, most societies have a direct continuation from one state to the next. It's not like when France overthrew its monarchy they stopped being France or seeing themselves as French. So they may see their continuous history as much older than the current state, with the Kingdom of France going back to 987.
The US doesn't have a continuous history prior to 1776 because they mostly come from Britain but they denounce their British heritage and they settled in NA but also denounce the heritage of the local peoples there. So the average American sees their entire history as starting at 1776, maybe a little bit further back to include the initial colonies and that's about it.
The 250 year thing is basically complete BS
Dumb people hear something, misunderstand it, and repeat an incorrect version with authority and without any critical thinking. I'm sure this person heard that the US is the oldest existing democracy. The next oldest, depending on the criteria you use, is probably Switzerland at 175+ years. But does this person really think that the US has existed longer than, say, the ancient Egyptians, the Ottomans, the Byzantines, etc.?
There's a certain irony that there are a couple of cases of "my local pub is older than your entire country" in the country in question. For example the White Horse Tavern in Newport, RI.
My country is 900 years old and my people has inhabited these lands before the romans ever dreamed of set foot here.
That is plain ignorance.
Even if this were true, this would be anthropic reasoning, which is always suspect. The belief that the present, the here and now, cannot be exceptional will always overlook examples where it is exceptional.
We live in interesting times.
i think the first poster misunderstood a quote and I can't reproduce it anymore either. it was something about no empire lasted more then 250 years? or no government form or something among these lines? it was not about the country disapearing in name or anything, but that it damatically changes in one way or another like completly changing the form of government
I believe the ottoman empire (1299–1922) would like a word.
If I assume by the word "Pub" that they are in the UK, their country has only existed for 103 years. Obviously, that doesn't mean the end of the people, or the pubs, just the end of that system of government and/or territorial border.
There's no shame in it. Constitutions and bills of rights need to be updated as people become more enlightened and civilized. The US would certainly be better off if it had had more constitutional amendments over these 250 years. Maybe then it wouldn't need a revolution.
It probably has a more stable foundation too!
England would like a word. It formed in 927 AD. That means it is 1,098 years old.
How many different countries has your pub survived?
brazil is 500 and something
To be fair, it's easier to manage a pub than a whole country.
if there weren't people dumb enough to genuinely believe that the earth is flat, then i would assume it was a troll post.
but here we are...
Honest to god thought this was a Trump quote or some shit. Like read it in his voice and everything.
Are we sure he hasn't said this?