Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing ‘Woke’ Reputation
Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing ‘Woke’ Reputation
Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the "oligarchy," arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans.
Elissa Slotkin can fuck off.
Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency…
Oh, she can really fuck off.
Edit:
“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.
This is code for not rocking the boat.
Let's get back to our controlled opposition roots.
First part of article title is a bit misleading I think. She thinks "Kings" is a better term than oligarchy because it's more relatable. She has a plan to fight kings. She does seem to think wokeness is weak though.
Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”
Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.
“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.
Of course. They don't want to fix things, they just want to be the ones getting the benefits.
She’s sorta right. ‘Oligarchy’ is a big college word that Joe Bumblefuck doesn’t understand.
Aristocrats is a good word, but again: “duh?”
Therefore Dems just need to start harping about “rich fucking parasites”
Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing
FTFY
The unfalsifiable orthodoxy. Moving to the far-right and appealing to moderate Republicans win elections. If a Democrat wins, it proves that this works, if a Democrat loses, they just hadn't moved far-right enough.
kamala never mentioned identity politics on the campaign
Seems to be an unpopular opinion, but she is right. I think the people upset with her in the comments do not live in red areas.
As stupid as it sounds, that is all people seem to care about. The right used to have abortion as a drum to bang. Now that Roe is overturned the right needed a new social cause, and they found 'woke' which is WAY more effective than abortion since it seems to excite both religious, and non-religious.
If you go and talk with people in rural areas you will be shocked by how prominent this issue is in their minds, and I believe it will always beat economic issues for them.
Fighting Oligarchy resonates greatly. But yes, the dems have focused too much on the culture war in favour of participating in the class war against the working class.
That is definitely something they should put waaaay more focus on. Trump is the cry for help of much of the working class, if people would believe you actually fought FOR the working people in your country, the dems would be unstoppable.
"Don't let perfect the enemy of good."
The "good":
Way to advertise what side she's really on.
Slotkin is a NEOCON.
And you're the problem
No, she can fuck off.
The oligarchy is killing us, and spinning language won’t change that. Meanwhile, ‘woke’ just means ‘social empathy’, which is ironically the solution to many of the problems the oligarchy is causing (and they’re not shy about this – Musk recently said empathy is bad).
We need more ‘woke’, not less. And being butthurt that the fascists are using ‘woke’ as a slur against us is childish and easy to ignore if you’re not too simple to get it.
Fuck this. I’m woke and proud of it. We all should be.
woke is what republicans use to attack whatever they dont like, if a democrat uses woke, they arnt really a DEMocrat, alot of them have a veneer of being dem or progressive but they often use buzzwords of right wingers to justify thier positions.
I am sure this slide to the right will surely work.
Sure stop pandering to the wealthy and make plans to support and lift the general populace in all areas and you will stop being "woke".
And guess what, the best way to pay for it is to get the fair share of taxes back from those that are avoiding paying completely by paying lawmakers privately.Wow, so easy, much fun.
And this is why we need more decent folk around the country like AOC to run for any and all offices.
The only reason the party has the woke reputation is that empty lip service is really all they had left. People like this need to get a fucking clue. If people want to vote for republicans, they will never ever ever get confused and accidentally vote for democrats just because you mirrored their policies from 12-20 years ago.
Ratchet effect at work
If they quack like a republican and walk like a republican, they're a republican
American number 1 priority would be to get out this 2 party system with ranked voting or something.
At least she's honest about throwing in with fascism.
The rest of the Democratic party is pissing on our leg and telling us it's raining.
Lol wow..
Here's who her donors are, if that's of interest to anybody
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/elissa-slotkin/summary?cid=N00041357
Willfully or blindly ignorant, but the result is the same.
I can’t do what [AOC] does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist
"It's pragmatic for me to avoid making my Republican donors upset." What an idiot.
Man I figured this was paraphrased because I can't trust a headline nowadays even if it used quotes but nope. Used those exact terms in that way. Says to retake flag energy. Fuck that nationalist shit. Definately need to redefine patriotism around the constitution and civil rights but sure as shit not around the flag. The flag is a symbol of the ideals that should be respected not a thing itself to respect.
What are they going to do, ask MAGA to stop calling them "woke"? MAGA is all about bullying people, so saying "we don't like your name-calling" is only going to make it worse.
Grow a spine. Respond with "I know what woke means, so are you arguing against it from the racism angle or the ignorance angle?"
The oligarchy pays me to pretend to fight for you! Wait. Cut that part.
If you think your salvation is in the neoliberals that enabled their opposition into getting us here for 50 years, you're almost as deluded as Trump's legion of useful idiots.
The DNC would rather lose to the Fascists than move to the left. The former keeps their shared bribe gravy train running which is the point, fighting their bribers would not.
The DNC either needs to be stolen by a populist leftist as Trump did with the RNC, or get comfortable because if the choice is fascist or neoliberal as it has been for half a century, we will continue to find new depths to descend to until total system collapse.
Fascism is the union of business and state to accelerate metastasis at any cost, let's say we even have another free election, and best case scenario we elect another neoliberal, I can't respect your opinion or consider it informed if you truly believe the Neoliberals will once back in power do a thing to meaningfully reign in the capitalist's governmental capture or redistribute their Ill gotten wealth.
If the Neoliberals somehow get back into power in 4 years, they'll leave the table set for the fascists to march again in another 4. Affirmation ribbons are leaps and bounds better than scapegoats, but you can't eat affirmation ribbons, nor can you live in them. Our mass homeless population, our murder for profit confidence scheme we call American Healthcare, our education system at every level in utter ruin, these are not partisan issues because they would cost big corpo exploited profits to fix, and so both parties protect the status quo from us, the people that suffer and die under them. Fascists point and laugh at you, but neoliberals just shrug and go "market forces, amirite 🤷?"
Oligarchy is why we have Trump. There probably isn't hope, but if you refuse understand big corpo is the enemy of the people and the cause of all this stemming from the Reagan Revolution, then not only will you burn in the fires of fascism, you'll burn ignorant as to why and how to boot.
Elissa, stop running your mouth and do it yourself if you have a better idea.
For those of you that can't be bothered to read more than a headline:
Dem Senator Says Party Needs to Stop Attacking ‘Oligarchy’ and Focus on Losing ‘Woke’ Reputation
AP Photo/Paul Sancya, Pool
Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans and should be replaced with “kings.”
During an interview with Politico national politics correspondent Adam Wren, Slotkin spoke about her “war plan” to “contain and defeat” President Donald Trump.
Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.
“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'” wrote Wren, who reported that Slotkin was planning to deliver a series of speeches in the coming months about her plan.
Slotkin told the news outlet, “Trump is doing a whole bunch of things that I think are a threat to our economy and a threat to our Democracy and I have a responsibility on behalf of my state to point that out and try to do something about that.”
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) – the most likely Democratic presidential nominee in 2028, according to analyst Nate Silver – recently commenced a “Fight Oligarchy” tour with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) across the United States.
Last month, after Slotkin was asked by a constituent how she would “step up for us now” like Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders, Slotkin threw shade at her progressive colleagues.
“Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump and the cuts and the attacks on our judiciary and the attacks on our Constitution?” asked Slotkin, who claimed her responsibilities fighting Trump’s government cuts forced her “to be more than just an AOC.”
“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.
If anybody wanted to read the article (ha! yeah, I know) she's not saying we should lose 'woke' ideology or stop attacking 'oligarchy'. She says the opposite of those things, which was phrased by mediaite this way for clickbait reasons.
What she's saying is to use the word "kings" instead of "oligarchy". Which I get. Sure - do that. Makes sense. Same argument, same vitriol, more punch.
As for the 'woke' part, she said:
Detailing her plan, Slotkin – a former analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) – argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy” inspired by Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell.
She's mad as fuck and doesn't want to explain why people need to be treated with respect - it should be a given and we don't need to explain it.
So there's sixty comments on here so far, most of them railing against her but I don't see it. I think she's been misinterpreted, deliberately, in the case of the mediaite headline writer.
Controlled opposition
I have no regrets leaving
It's really nice when the false progressives out themselves so openly.
Who gives a shit about some stupid label the MAGAt morons have come up with??? Fascism needs to go! That should be the resounding message here!
Hooray another sack of shit politician attempting to derail from real issues
Just another clueless asshole.
Ah another closet republican, nice
Fuckkk off 9th American oblast.
More woke, less selling out your citizens to the wealthy. Thats what I want.
I understand where people are coming from when they say "identity politics" are politics getting in the way of class struggle. I vehemently disagree with it, these are also important issues we need to stand up for even when they are sometimes unpopular, but I understand where it comes from.
But if she also thinks we shouldn't be talking about class either, what the fuck does she want to do?
I'm an independent but mostly lefty guy and this lady has never sat well with me. She's a corporate dem through and through.
Slotkin is the kind of Democrat who will be literally seig heiling at the DNC convention in ten years if the party continues to pursue the policies of capitulation that she is advocating for here. Four decades of this approach by this party has enabled the rise of US fascism we are dealing with now.
"I can't believe the country doesn't get this!? The Republicans won and they hate this stuff so we just need to be Republicans and then we can win!"
.... /wrist
Whelp.
Guess Slotkin is getting a “collaborator” postcard from me.
Literally, the opposite of what they should be doing. And saying Americans are too stupid to understand a word like "oligarchy" isn't a good look, either.
bye felicia
Can you tell us you have been purchased by the oligarchy without telling us?
End "woke"? So let Republicans shred all DEI? That's not just trans/gay, it's anti racial discrimination, it is help and protection for the disabled ... hell, it is the very laws that make ramps and elevators required for the disabled.
Yes, I might be talked into agreeing that democrats have to tone down "the message" so Republicans cannot use it as a hate rallying cry ... but the goals are still there. The evil fascist stuff this admin has done must be reversed, and these people all need to be in jail for insider trading by ping-ponging the economy.
Slotkin is the new Sinema and can GFY, but there is a component to this that does deserve some discussion.
If you look back on the past 10 years of the Democrats climbing hills for issues, I think it's out of sync with the majority of people. The staunch fight for identity politics is not what people seem to want or need right now, and they need to understand that. Maybe there was a time when this was what their constituents wanted, but no longer.
Now they need to be really fucking strong on fighting the billionaires, pushing back against the front to vast majority of the country that has no wealth, and finding ways to make that flip around so that the wealthy who are imposing the enshitification of the lower and middle class are held accountable for doing so.
Forget the current struggles we're forced to dread living through, and give people a clear plan and the hope that you'll actually be attacking these things when elected. Seems pretty simple.
Sounds like a moron who needs to be primaried.
Fuck that! I want my progressive cadidates woke AF!
Fuck that noise. Geronocrats and Turdpublicans brought us here. Both need to be removed from any meaningful position in society.
"Dem senator is a compromised lackey"
Yeah, no shit. That's the problem.
My favorite part was focusing on Trump taking away democracy. Putting Kamala forward, a candidate no one wanted, voted for, or liked. Protecting DuMOcRAsy!
I know how she can test her theory.
Run a primary opponent against her who feels differently. Let the market decide.
This is the DINO that went on after HitlerPig's SOTU and tried to sell the absurd concept that millions of people voted straight Democratic tickets, except for HitlerPig at the top.
Sure, there were probably some dummies rhat did that, but they're as rare as white squirrels. She's just the water carrier for the same old weak, spineless weenie Dems who are perfectly happy being smug about their "peaceful transfer of power" to Nazis who obviously rigged the election.
“Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation with Donald Trump and the cuts and the attacks on our judiciary and the attacks on our Constitution?” asked Slotkin, who claimed her responsibilities fighting Trump’s government cuts forced her “to be more than just an AOC.”
Fair.
“I can’t do what she does because we live in a purple state, and I’m a pragmatist,” she concluded.
🙄
Well, I'm just going to go extra woke, now. Go woke or go broke.
Lmao fuck that and fuck you, Slotkin.
You will not win running on a Republican platform,but half baked. That's what we have been shown. I will support the lesser evil, but no one else will. Harris never really attacked the rich. Who are you going to elect? "Immigrants are the problem but hey guys let's not be too hasty" or "IMMIGRANTS ARR The PROBLEM! KILLKILLKILL". I don't like either, but you both identify the same people (wrongly) as the main problem in society, and then they offer a (mosterous but still concrete) solution, while you offer nothing.
I feel like the headline conveys a different message than even what the article does:
“She said Democrats should stop using the term ‘oligarchy,’ a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes ‘kings,'”
argued that the Democratic Party needed to lose its “weak and woke” reputation and “fucking retake the flag,” adopting a “goddamn Alpha energy”
She's literally saying the word oligarchy sounds pretentious and an opposition to kings resonates better, and that people think the party is weak and they need to present themselves more aggressively.
Click bait is click bait.
Look, I get what she's going for: simplify the messaging, make the GOP respond to Dem labels instead of the other way around.
Here's the thing: She can just do that. We don't need someone navel gazing in the public square. This is the kind of thing you work out in think tanks or private rooms, and then execute the plan. Why discuss strategy in public? It's self-defeating.
Get her out, outdated mindset.
Punt her.
I think I used to know what "woke" meant, and I thought it was a good thing to be "woke" but the word seems to be used in different ways by different people. Closest thing I've seen to actual "doublespeak" yet. To be clear, I thought woke meant "to be aware" or "to know you need to learn more about certain issues". Education and learning is good for the society (not so good for an authoritarian leader though).
Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) has urged her Democratic colleagues to stop attacking the “oligarchy” on Thursday, arguing that the word did not resonate with most Americans
Everyone believes that their politics are the politics of MOST Americans, but reality is more complicated than that. I'm not sure that anyone can say what most of the roughly 260 million voting age Americans think, about much of anything, really. Yes, polling can give us some insights, but polls are inherently flawed.
The fact is, the American people are complex. They believe many things, and some of the things they believe contradict other things they believe; and just because an American thinks a certain way today, that doesn't mean they'll think that way tomorrow. Plus, we just have such a large and diverse populace, spread out across fifty states. It's difficult, if not impossible, to point to any one American and say, "that person represents most Americans."
If I had to guess, I'd say that most Americans don't give a rats ass about oligarchy or kings. If they could live their lives the way they wanted under an oligarchy or a king, they'd be fine with it. Kings, oligarchs, emperors, despots, who gives a shit, as long as the price of eggs doesn't go up too much. I think what matters to most Americans isn't semantic, philosophical or ideological, but material. I think most Americans would be perfectly content to live under a king, if under that king they were able to live a decent, middle class life.
But, that's just my guess. Again, it's hard for anyone to say what most Americans want or think or believe.
Most dems are Nazis too. Tell us something we don’t know.
Yikes
Politicians are the worst people. No other way to get the job.
No! The problem is Wednesdays!
Fuck you. Die.
