I've been meaning to ask this for a while. I saw a comment a month or so ago. Person said they keep their thermostat at like 65 in the winter and 78 in the summer. 78 seems fucking insane to me. That's too damn hot for inside. How do you sleep at 78 degrees?
Are they a lizard person or am I a baby?
Edit 1: I love all the comments on this! Never thought this post would create such discussion. Looking at the comments vs upvotes it honestly seems 50/50ish that 78 is hot for the indoors. Can lemmy do polls?
64/78 year round. Occasionally knock it down to 74 in the summer when it's going to be really hot and the AC unit may not keep up.The house retains heat too well and bakes in the evening sun.
Yes, 65F for the winter or lower, I hate the heater, and yes, 78F in summer, the heat pump struggles and it's plenty cool enough, feels cool compared to outside.
ETA I grew up in Florida without air conditioning. No central air until I was 24, sometimes window units. And at school no air conditioning till 7th grade and they kept it fucking FREEZING in that school so you would be going always from hot outside to so cold inside, it was worse than none.
People absolutely can adapt to the humidity and heat but buildings do not, they hold up so much better with the central air drying them out.
Long answer:
It gets over 110f so we keep it at 80 in the summer. We have double pane windows, a newer ac as well. Somewhat new insulation. Otherwise the power bill is over 1000 a month. Our bill in the winter is around 100ish and mostly gas. We keep the house at 60.
PGE is terrible. It's a little more than 60c a kilowatt now...
23 in a lot of the winter (though I think the thermostat is wrong since that gets us to 20.x or 21 according to actual thermometers in the room) and usually 26 in 'dry' mode in the summer. Right now, we're going for days without using them at all but, if not the heat, then the humidity will put an end to that by late May or early June.
Grew up in a house with no AC in the summer. Would easily hit high 80s inside during the day and hover in the lower 80s or high 70s at night.
You learn how to deal with it. Use fans to bring cooler air in at night. Close up windows and curtains (especially south-facing blinds) during the day. Hydrate frequently. At night, strip down as far as comfortable, use just a sheet instead of a blanket, and have a fan to circulate air. AC is a relatively new invention, people have been living longer in hotter areas without it. 78 degrees should literally be "no sweat".
(Not so) pro tip: Buy a stand or desk fan. What actually makes 77 feel hot is because there’s no breeze. 77 in itself is not hot. What you need is air circulation. Keeping it at 77 with a fan to get a breeze going is comfortable enough. Your electric bill will also be lower.
I did some experimenting - I can't sleep above 67 at most, 65 comfortably.
Anything above 68 is too hot generally indoors and I begin to lose the ability to focus.
I don't have AC but my house is from the 1860s when people had fires running pretty much nonstop so is designed to keep cool, so even when it's 80+ outdoors the indoor temperature rarely goes above 70
Here's January of this year. San Francisco, so pretty moderate weather --- typically don't run heat during the day, and low 60s at night (if at all) during the winter. Large temperature gradient throughout house, typically.
South facing windows gives kitchen and living room a greenhouse effect, particularly in the winter, hence the large daily temperature swings:
But tbh,I don't have an AC at the moment,so the max. value is only achieved by automatic ventilation. But I has it on the same range when I was living in a country with AC.
78 during the day is fine depending on the humidity. The real trick of AC is that it brings the humidity down so if it is like 90 out and the AC is running to hit 78 then it is fine. But if it's like 83 so the AC barely runs then 78 starts to feel sticky and unpleasant.
I do 69 in winter because its close enough to what I want and funny. summer it depends on humidity. I often just keep it a bit below the temp outside because if you draw away humidity even low eighties is not bad.
72 F / 22 C in winter and 68 F / 20 C in summer. We live in a LEED Platinum building and the electric bill for our 2-bedroom apartment never goes above $50, so we set it to whatever is most comfortable.
Humidity is a bitch here. AC keeps it at 70° F overnight and 72° F during the day. Heat won't cut on unless it's 62° F in the winter, and it runs only a couple of times over the entire season.
I set mine to 0π at night and in the summer, and 3/2π to 11/6π in the winter... the numbers have worn off and idk what the actual temp is, but I do know all of them are in Quadrant IV.
*I only open the window or curtains at night in the summer or maybe sometimes when it's raining in the winter. I think my dream house is literally a cave.
some people in my family have sensory things where they feel slightly hotter than others. 69f for most of the year, in winter we hardly use the heater since it doesn't freeze where we live, but my room doesn't have full insulation since the garage is below it, so I have a little bathroom heater in winter.
I agree that 78°F is way too high to be a confortable sleeping temp, though being in a country where residential AC isn't really a thing and inside temps at night often are higher than that in summer... you get used to it, it'll just never be fun.
My ideal sleeping temp is like 15°C but even if I had AC that seems too wasteful so I'd probably settle for 18-20
I live in California’s San Joaquin valley. It gets hot in the summer. PG&E bill is high as hell. Having your place cooler than 78F is a total luxury. In my place keeping it at 78F would mean a couple $600 bills. I have since gotten solar but I’ve heard PG&E increased their prices twice since then. And they want to increase it even more.
On the other hand some places like Sacramento used to have super cheap rates and people could crank their ACs on.
I try to keep between 68 F and 72 F, but uh, the thermostat's method of measuring the actual temperature in the apartment is completely, laughably busted, so... hot days it goes on 62, cold days it goes on 84.
I keep it 68F(20c) downstairs, but the main house temp is regrettably 73F(22C) and I fight to keep it that low because the rest of the house is cold blooded.
80 in summer during the day, 75 at night, 78 day and night in winter. We do not have heat, and 78 is required for the air conditioning to run periodically in winter to dehumidify the house.
It depends on where you sleep. Basement vs upstairs can make a huge difference at the same thermostat setting. I keep mine set to be between 19°C and 25°C and don't have trouble sleeping.
Speaking of which, anyone else use Home Assistant / Z-Wave?
Right now we’ve had ours off for about a week, the pollen isn’t great for the GF, but she was unhappy about our winter heating bill being so damn high due to drafts.
Year long lowest possible to keep whatever fluids are in the radiators flowing. Not off but not too on either. And then open windows to regulate temperature.
I've managed to have restful sleep at 78 with two fans blasting me, plus a window open to let in the relatively cooler night air. It's doable, but the body takes time to adjust. Humidity can be a big factor.
65 in winter is kind of understandable, since you could layer up or heat a selected space or yourself easier.
My usual comfy indoor ranges would be 70 daytime, 68 night for winter, then 75 throughout in the summer.
Mine is programmable. In winter it's set to 65F at night and 68F durring the day. When unoccupied it also goes to 65F. I'd love to be able to set it lower because I love the cold but my pet snake probably wouldn't appreciate it even with their hot rock and heat lamp. Durring the summer I have it set to 68F while sleeping 72F durring the day and 78F while unoccupied. I don't shut the AC off while unoccupied because in my area humidity is a much bigger issue in the summer than temperature and removing latent heat takes a long time if you let it build up all day. Currently working on refitting my system for better on demand latent heat removal.
As cold as the other people in the house will let me. I have rarely lived anywhere with functioning central heat and air (and have never liked it when I did), so generally I use window units and a cunningly devised system of curtains. I don't care if a hallway or the bathroom gets hot, so long as the bedroom and kitchen stay cool, y'know?
In the winter I almost never use heating, except for a small space heater I just take room to room with me, and one that I run while in the shower.
Ours is a variable speed compressor so during the summer, it is set to 76 during the day when my wife/kids are there and set to maintain humidity under 50% which allows overcooling by 2 degrees. We run at 70/69 at night because our youngest doesn't sleep well with the fan running in our room so I have it cooler to keep from soaking the bed with sweat.
Nothing. My place is so well insulated (with triple glazing) that I don't have to heat. Don't have AC, but closing the blinds during the day keeps things cool enough.
I keep mine on 64F room temp and hover around that. I use fans in the heat and portable heaters in the cold. But I heard keep it just below 70 in the winter and just above 70 in the summer to have a better bill.