SHOCK POLL: AOC a Close Second Place Behind Kamala Harris in 2028 Democratic Primary

If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn't.

Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what's gonna win the votes

I'm shocked that Harris is in first place...

The fact that Kamala is even going to try to run again shows how fucked that party is.

Why is Harris even mentioned? She should disappear like Hillary.

Nobody wants this person to run again.

The democratic party is cooked if it runs Kamala again. There is no way Kamala is running this high in the polls.

Second place to Harris??? Holy fuck we deserve our fate.

Edit: upon reading the article (I know...) AOC has the best net favorability. So a little more hopium there.

Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?

Fucking morons never learn.

Running Harris was a mistake in 2024 and it would be a mistake if it happens in 2028

Welcome to American politics, when the 2028 election begins in 2024 and the 2028 primary began in 2020.

I'm so tired.

1. Stop with this shit. It's 2025. This is stupid.

2. Women can't be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That's a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that's reality.

yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala "keep arming isreal" fucking harris again.

Who the fuck is thinking about 2028?!? I'm just trying to get out of 2024 alive.

so people think that AOC or Harris is going to win in this very racist/sexist country we are in? Guess it will be Trump again.

I'd vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.

I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn't excited about it.

No deets on methodology. “Of Democrats”. How many? Where? Registered Dems? Likely voters? 2024 voters?

It matters greatly. In the primaries, Obama was invisible to pollsters that were only looking at prior Dem voters. His support came mostly from first-timers and independents.

You guys still think there will be free elections in 2028?

I hope we actually get a 2028 election

What shock? AOC is the only one in that party with clear positioning

Fuck Harris, we have no more time for right wing "liberals." She needs to get the fuck out of the way and progressives need to take charge

Hillary 2028!!

Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries

If only your drmocrat handlers let you vote for who you want and not for who they choose.

I will be shocked if the Dem establishment doesn't run Newsom and do their damndest to ratfuck AOC like they did with Bernie.

Sure, there's a lot of time between now and a theoretical 2028 presidential cycle...

But I have learned to set expectations pessimistically and be surprised in the optimism direction, not the other way around.

Cory Booker talked all that time for nothing

Yeah okay pack it in boys, we're screwed lol.

Why even bother to run a primary at this point? Just let the DNC select their candidate so we can skip out on the 6 months of sham and shilling.

At this early stage when there isn't an obvious choice (like an incumbent or VP), this is really a measure of name recognition more than anything.

I don't know what the field is going to look like when the primaries roll around, but I highly doubt that Kamala will make it anywhere near the nomination again. She had her chance, she's extremely unlikely to get another one. The last time a Democrat got the nomination a second time after a loss was Adlai Stevenson in 1956, and he only got it because most of the other possible candidates stayed out of the race because they expected Eisenhower to win in a landslide.

We're 2.5-3 years away from the primary race even starting, and 3+ years away from the convention. This poll means absolutely nothing at this point.

lol imagine thinking there's going to be another presidential election

Ok look I voted for Kamala but if a candidate fails can we please run someone one else? You don't run the same person over again because the same people who felt like she was forced down their throats are still going feel like she's being forced down their throats.

And the same bs that was used against her will be used again. But people eat yhay shit up which is why it works.

And her tactics of bring out appealing to Republicans again is probably whay she'll do again and that's going to lose more dem voters.

The corporate Dems need to go away.

LOL. still not moving? chuck schumer and nancy still doing their thing? that is not a real democracy.

Is there even going to be another election?

What??? Why is Kamala still in the running AT ALL?!?! jesus fucking christ.

As others have said, if Harris was out there doing what Bernie and AOC have been doing, then maybe there would be room for discussion. As it stands now? Nah, step aside sis.

Defeatists ignoring the number of people attending her rallies recently.

I would suggest Harris to look for a spot in the Supreme Court

Where the fuck has Harris been this whole time? How has she remained relevant? WTF is wrong with the DNC (gestures wildly at all their dumb shit)?

Harris needs to permanently fuck off. AOC 2028.

The shock to me is that Kamala Harris is in the poll at all. What rallies is she hosting? Is she even making any media appearances? I wouldn't be surprised though if the DNC pull out the super delegates to say AOC has lost day 1 if there is even going to be a 2028 election at all.

Is this wise? As an outside observer I had the impression that Harris lost in part because of systematic, subtle and overt racism and sexism. All this applies to AOC, too. Do the Democrats want to lose? Don't they have some sort of JFK look-alike, people actually want to vote? It's not as if appearance wasn't way more important in the US than things like the actual political agenda.

Ayyy. This shouldn't be a shock. I think AOC should be seen as a favourite to emerge as the Democratic nominee in 2028... if we get an election then.

As much as I really really like AOC, I wonder if the rest of America isn’t ready to elect a woman. We’ve had two female candidates and both times we got Trump. Granted the first time was Hillary and I held my nose to vote for her (now I’d vote for a fresh dog turd before I’d vote Trump, but something about the whole Hillary thing just rubbed me the wrong way, especially with what happened to Bernie), and the second time they really screwed up at the last minute with Joe. I guess I’m just skittish at this point.

I really hope I’m wrong, because AOC is just a hair behind Bernie in my opinion and I love Bernie. I think she’d be a really intelligent take no shit leader and I am so desperate for that right now.

Great, they are clearly running the campaign for JD Vance then.

See ya in 2028 with JD as president

There was a poll showing that Trump won voters who don't follow politics at all by 14 points. There seems to be a substantial proportion of the population who just picks who they vote for based on how well things have been going for them for the last 4 or 8 years.

With inflation, the pendulum swung towards Trump. After 4 years of tariffs, declining dollar value and Trump being unable to run again, I think that pendulum will swing fairly hard to the left. So conventional wisdom on not picking a candidate who will scare off centrists could be out the window. In which case, you might as well nominate AOC or someone similar.

Of course, president AOC won't be able to accomplish all the things she wants to without a supportive congress and getting that to happen is a much bigger challenge than winning the presidency.

Anyone focused on who to run in a 2028 election is delusional. There's absolutely no reason to think the regime will allow a 2026 election, let alone 2028.

Yeah, we’re not gonna get another election. We blew it as a country. Shit’s over.

AOC would receive my vote.

We're not voting our way out of this.

Kamala Harris is a two-time loser. Who would vote for her?

She's an amazing candidate. I'd vote for her. I dunno about the rest of the country tho. They seem to really appreciate white men when it comes time to vote. All other issues be damned.

Is this that shocking? Ocasio-Cortez seems to be the only politician left of tired milquetoast liberalism with both the public profile to sustain a campaign and demographic profile amicable to the position.

Wait why is Harris even running again? I don't think she's that bad but I can't vote in US elections - the electorate rejected her.

Somewhere, a Russian with a gulag allergy is crafting a fresh AOC-focused smear campaign for the 2028 third-party distraction effort.

I would like both Bernie and AOC to run for president, each with the other as their VP. Either winning would improve America.

Ideally, we get Bernie-AOC for 2028 and 2032, then AOC + ??? for 2036 and 2040. This nation is in dire need of dedicated progressive leadership, considering how far right the ship has tilted.

If the Dems were smart, they’d make the runner-up in the primary their vice presidential candidate. I don’t know why they never seem to do this. I’m not a “Bernie bro”, but Clinton probably would’ve won if Bernie had been her VP.

It feels like everyone is desperate to loose, if someone came up with a contest where winning cost you a lot of money and was nothing but pain and suffering then the race would look exactly the same as it does between dema and reps.

geeez, I wish it was 2028 already! I hope we still have elections in 2028. I usually don't like to be doomer, but nobody is really stopping trump's dictatorship right now. 😬

If those are our two front runners we are fucked.

If you think in terms of "lanes" AOC is the only left wing potential candidate on there, 21% support is actually not persuasive in her odds to actually be the candidate.

I feel very good about her chances to run the Bernie playbook and end with a top 3 amount of delegates but in an actual primary the lanes would clear up as people drop out and it is hard to see her consolidating support from like, Gavin Newsome.

Yes, the same polls that said Kamala would win.

honest question: I am out of the loop. Why the sudden hate against kamala harris? I come from a country without a two party system, so we criticize everybody all the time.

nothing shocking there.

finally 35, she can run for president, she should win. if I trust any politician to pull the States out of a nosedive, it's sanders or AOC, and I do like that she's half a century younger.

I have a feeling that AOC is going to run for Schumer's seat and Booker is going to be the nominee.

Fake news right? To call this SHOCK gotta be better not the same.

Outside of AOC or Sanders, I will write in for a chimpanzee.

As much as I love her, this country has shown time and time again it is unwilling to elect a woman president. It sucks, and I don't like it, but the Dems need to run a dude.

Edit: good job hivemind, proving you're still alive and strong considering there's a top comment saying the exact same thing.

The shocking part is that Harris isn't polling lower.

I don't know what is the needs to be doubtful of polls now, after all, polls told us all over the internet that Kamala would DEFINITELY win the election, and she won it. right?

Right?

So yeah this polling must also be saying the truth

AOC is #1

It's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And she's one of the last persons still right in the head in that circus. 2028 elections may not even happen, and she is the one that is needed to be behind the wheel not then but right fucking now.

"SHOCK POLL"

I would have voted if she was running last November.

If Kamala couldn't beat Trump, and AOC is behind her... does that mean she'd win?

...Harris was just a backup bandaid after the bandaid before her dropped.

She remains a great option in contrast to Trump, but then so does the contents of a colostomy pouch after a meal of blue cheese and corn.

Since we're not playing presidential-candidate-triage a few hours away from the general, maybe keep her on the shelf for now?

I mean the Democrats can keep running women candidates, but it's really not working at all. It's mind boggling that people chose Trump over a woman again, but here we are. America has a severe daddy complex going on.

There are no true Scotsmen in this thread.

Anyone here who seriously thinks Democrats will win without playing dirty and purging Republican votes in the millions? Please CMV.

So the Democrats are not interested in public opinion and is hellbent on always making every election about identity politics. I’m saying this as someone who has always (regrettably) voted democrat in every election since 1992. Inclusivity is important, but why is it always…always the only talking point coming from the left. The message that everyone should be able to get behind is the insane wealth disparity that exists, most especially in America. I remember when everyone on the left was sooo happy, so thrilled when Kirsten Sinema was elected as Senator for Arizona because she was bisexual, as if that’s somehow a qualification, and how she took a huge dump on working class Americans. Has anyone given thought to the Astronaut? You know, the guy whose wife was affected by political violence? The guy who seems reasonable and well spoken ? Middle America might actually vote for someone like Mark Kelly who flew combat missions during the gulf war. Why is the Democratic Party so obsessed with AOC? She’s not a bad person, the right obviously hates her, and that’s shitty, but it doesn’t mean she should automatically be the darling of the Democratic Party, the obsession confuses me honestly, her personality is a bit grating tbh. Democrats are hellbent on either choosing and ineffective milquetoast man or a disingenuous woman.

Not shocking to anyone paying attention

In the last failed election, when asked what Harris would change of Bidens policies, she answered, "couldnt think of anything she'd have done differently". Those policies polled extremely low at the time, even amongst her own party. If Harris has a different view now, immediately would be the time to voice how she's any different, otherwise polling on those issues says she is another losing candidate to a fascist clown trying for an illegal 3rd term. Its long past put up or shut up time, Harris's work needs to speak for itself or she needs to get the hell out of the way.

Wheres the effin new policy positions, Kamala. Get off your arse and do the work.

Let's be honest, we'd vote for a shit sammich right now over the orange cancer and his clown parade...

Let's fucking goooooooooo

Can we turn this into an interactive debate? Like a fantasy football dashboard meets lemmy?

And this is what's wrong with the party. You need to win red districts. Neither of these women will.