I don't want to say that Trump made you a favor, but I realized that I had completely forgot about Canada. Are you aware of this?
I don't want to say that Trump made you a favor, but I realized that I had completely forgot about Canada. Are you aware of this?
I mean, sure, it's not as population dense as the USA, or Mexico, but Canada is huge, your people are nice, you have some of the best entertainment companies on the planet (namely Cirque du Soleil and Pornhub), your natural resources and attractions are unbelievable and your actors are the best (especially the BSG/Chronicles of Riddick cast).
And yet, as an Italian with an international perspective (lived abroad for the last 16 years and visited the USA and South America repeatedly), I have been not "Canada-aware" for most of my life.
I get it that you are not boasting like your neighbors (and that alone makes you better than them imho), but how come that I was left to realize only today that the Manitoba flour I used to make pizza all my life takes its name from one of your provinces, while I know about all the shitty pizzas the US made up in a century.
Same thing goes for Latin American countries, even the ones I never visited, like Mexico or Argentina.
I shall visit soon and I hope you can take the chance to teach me more in the meanwhile.
It’s hard to be aware when most everything in Canada has basically been sold to the US by the greedy. I mean the last shred of our heritage is the French on the packaging. If it weren’t for that, you could never tell between products from either nation.
Hockey? We have like 3 teams left in the NHL. Superman? He’s American now. Alaska, which is the landing point for a staggering amount of goods coming into Canada, American now too. Tim Hortons? American.
We sold our heritage long ago. You can say whatever you want to farm karma but the sad reality is we basically are the 51st state. And as mad as Canadians get hearing that, especially now (I loath Trump and have always had a tenuous opinion of the US), it’s the sad truth.
And if you’re hoping for Carney to make this place great, he won’t. The whole “we are building a better world” is the biggest lie told because people have long realized you die. Legacy or not. No one wants to spends their lives in agony so three generations down will get it easy. That’s a hackneyed trope for a sci fi movie, nothing more.
I cannot really relate to hockey or Tim Hortons, but c'mon Shuster was only born in Canada.
Just remember that it was a Canadian who invented the Hawaiian pizza. So, sorry about that.
(for the record, I like Hawaiian pizza)
The meme about hating pineapple pizza comes from Americans that hate eating anything that's recognizably plant-like.
It must be ultra processed or meat.
Hey hey pineapple is officially a good pairing with cheese. Afaik the mozzarella foundation (??) recommends it specifically as a good flavour combination. No need to apologise bud.
The key to Hawaiian pizza is you need to add spice to it. Then you get sweet, savory, and spicy all in one wonderful mouthful. Even jalapeños work fine, but preferable something with a little heat.
As I stated in another comment, the reason for it being a possibly bad pizza has nothing to do with flavor, but "texture".
I was ambivalent, but now I support invasion. Not really, it’s just fun to hate on pineapple on pizza.
If the US takes over, it becomes their invention. It's like our diamond shield. Like, whoever smelt it, dealt it.
I especially love Boston Pizza’s Hawaiian pizza with a sweet chilli drizzle on top. I can’t remember the name.
I never tried hawaiian pizza, mostly because I hate soggy pizza. I guess it is not meant to be eaten on a Neapolitan style base, but then again, I am not interested.
I am from Rome, where we have a pizza that would be possible not to get soggy when putting pineapple on it, but it is a curse from God, rather than real pizza.
It helps to give the pineapple a really good squeeze to reduce the liquid before you put it on. Then use the juice for sangria or whatever. :)
I think it has to do with an old saying.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick"
Generally we as Canadians on the international level speak softly, while the US speaks very loudly. It is of no shock to me that you only remember us when we have to bring out the stick because we aren't as "interesting" to watch as the US is.
We may have Cirque du Soleil but everyone knows the real circus is US politics, and it is hard to compete on the world stage with the best of the best. haha
- Quoting Theodore Roosevelt very funny in context
- What big stick?
The big stick of "we own most of your natural resources and energy so you probably shouldn't fuck around"?
What big stick?
The one between every Canadians legs causing Trump the penis envy required to invade our beautiful nation.
"Speak softly, hide behind America's stick and hope they never notice us"
Happy to hear you're thinking of us! I think the average Canadian thinks more about our country's international reputation than mindshare. Personally, it doesn't bother me hearing that someone in another country doesn't think about us very often, but it does make me happy to hear that when you do it's positively. Please do visit!
The Beaverton satirical article: Canada ranked number 1 in list of countries that care the most about international rankings
To be honest I never knew we shipped our flour that far. (I live in Manitoba)
I think for the most part we realize that we are not perfect by any stretch, and instead of bragging about what we do or don't have, many of us would prefer to just try our best to make our corner of the planet as nice as we can. We are, after all, made up of people from all over the world and I think that's one of our greatest strengths.
Ney, Manitoba, prairie flour is shipped all over the world. It was one of the first commodities from Canada shipped to the Soviet Union during the height of the cold war. I remember the hype that was caused when we started shipping it. You young-uns would be a lot better off if you read a bit more of your history than just about oil and gas fields. You have much more to offer the world than these.
I think it is not always produced in Manitoba, but it is the name of the kind of wheat flour that is best for pizza.
I don't think your experience is unique - I think because the U.S. has been so dominant economically, culturally, and certainly militarily, much of the world overlooks us. It's not in our national character to be boastful, we just get things done - but never mistake our quiet nature for meekness. We're fiercely proud of our country and our accomplishments - and of being very unlike our neighbors to the south.
You should definitely come visit if you get the chance, there's a lot to see, and a nation of friendly people to help you enjoy it. Ciao!
Sometimes we Canadians overlook ourselves, too...
Just as one example: the National Film Board making and promoting Canadian films just seem like some art-school hobbyists in comparison to the USA. You see all the big-name Canadian actors ending up in Hollywood blockbuster movies.
Absolutely. I had a friend (f*ck cancer) who was a huge movie buff, never missed TIFF, but he refused to watch Canadian-made movies. His argument was that he had been disappointed by them too many times, but I pointed out that Hollywood had disappointed him way more often lol. I finally got him to watch some, but he was a stubborn bastard about it. Miss ya, Fred.
We know we aren't flashy. The world kind of forgets about us sometimes because we are next to the loudest kid in the class. We are proud generally of the co-operation we have with other places and groups. Our medical advances raise waters that lift all ships , we have a space program that primarily assists other nations space exploration. We have a military but we are primarily devoted to UN peacekeeping.
The Canadians were a pivotal force tasked with the Italian Campaign in WWII which had some of the most brutal on the ground city fighting of the war. My Grandfather was there from the beginning to the end of the Campaign... Yet I have heard Americans on here ask "Did Canada storm the beaches of Normandy?" as some kind of "gotcha" to shame us because they don't know that we had our own beach operation but all they know is that Americans were there because Hollywood only shows American battles.
We are used to being kind of forgotten but we can be proud of ourselves for a job well done.
Honestly we forget about Canada, in a way. Having the US so close geographically and culturally has made it hard to see anything else. I can think of three distinctly Canadian dishes, and two of them have only stayed Canadian because they involve ingredients Americans can't get.
The Anglo-Canadian identity is pretty much just "we're not American" and having an inferiority complex. It's been weirdly natural for people to switch to thinking of America as the enemy.
while I know about all the shitty pizzas the US made up in a century.
Yep, none of that was us. For sure. /s
ingredients Americans can't get
Horsemeat? What are the other two dishes?
The dishes in mind were actually butter tarts, Nanaimo bars and poutine. Cheese curds are hard to come by in the US (so they make a much worse version with cheddar or whatever), and Bird's custard powder for the filling of the bars is a British commonwealth thing. Butter tarts just aren't exciting enough I guess.
I have no idea how prevalent horsemeat is anywhere. The white people in my area are loudly butthurt it exists at all.
So you are North American Scots?
Yes, a bit like that (it's not the groundskeeper Willie meme, other Lemmings). I wonder if Austrians feel the same way about Germany?
And I should say, Quebec does not suffer from this exact issue as far as I know.
I preferred being out of sight out of mind actually, especially the lack of tourists. Hell is other people.
When I visited Scotland, I felt the city core of Edinburgh wasn't for the locals anymore and it turned me off tourist reliant locations entirely for context.
the lack of tourists.
It's a big country, that's definitely not the case coast to coast.
You can do tourism wrong (as Italian cities do), and do it right, like Amsterdam started to do now. I was there in April last year and I was able to take pictures of the canals with no one in them but me effortlessly. They literally paid ads to tell British low cost flight tourists not to come visit.
It's called self-care.
Yeah, Portugal also has a really big problem with tourism - we back here need a wakeup call fast.
You can do tourism wrong (as Italian cities do)
Santorini is feeling the impacts of that over-tourism big time.
I'd agree, with my limited experience anyways. I've only left Canada once and it was a trip to Scotland, Netherlands, Austria, Czech Republic.
And you forgot to mention, we are a lot SMARTER than the Americans.
It s true, Americans have hugged the limelight for 70 years, always, ahem, Trumping the news. No matter how loud we shout, it is always the American voice that is heard in Europe. But really, the reason lies not just in America's behavior, or even Canada's, but in the complete disinterest of Europeans in even bothering to learn anything about Canada, the assumption in Europe being that we are just 'not significant' compared to the US. Even though we did a lot more to defend Europe in the two Great Wars than America did. We were the ones that developed the strategies for the new technological warfare (Vimy Ridge, for example), the Americans simply copied them. It's just that the Americans took all the claim.
Obviously not a scifi fan. So much filmed there most significantly various stargates.
The Canadian film industry is so huge that a great majority of 'Hollywood' films have at least part of the movie shot in Canada. Night at the Museum (all of them) was a big one that very few people realize was shot in Canada. I Robot, also parts of it shot here. The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus. Chronicles of Riddick (all of them) was shot in Canada. The list goes on and on and on. The reason why so few Canadians recognize Canadian cities and settings in the American movies is that the sets are aways 'Americanized' - American flags, American money, American license plates, American road signs, American brands, American store branding, American iconography. Even if you knew it was shot in Canada, you would hardly recognize it as Canadian. The sets are purposely designed to look American. Even when it is supposed to be a Canadian city in the movie.
Night at the Museum (all of them) was a big one that very few people realize was shot in Canada.
That just brought back a memory for me. I remember a career day or something like that at school and one of my classmates brought his aunt who worked on that movie. She showed us some early pre-sfx footage she had of the t-rex chase where it was just a tennis ball on a stick. Definitely not something that could happen today, but that was before every kid had a camera on them at all times.
The Canadian film industry is so huge that a great majority of 'Hollywood' films have at least part of the movie shot in Canada
One historic district in Winnipeg regularly stands in for pre-fire era Chicago.
And various other parts of the city can easily act like many mid-west American cities.
One of the malls here hosts the shooting of a hallmark channel Christmas movie almost every summer.
The X-files series, shot in Canada.
There are about 200-250 countries. I doubt most of us could name 1 fact about half of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_3166_country_codes
I repeat: Canada is quite a big one, it has a developed economy and produces solid cultural products.
@biofaust Ok, the gig is up, which one of us Canadians wrote this. /s
As a second-generation Italian immigrant to Canada, Canada is pretty great. (Italy is pretty great too).
