Bluesky has started honoring takedown requests from Turkish government

pardon my ignorance, but how is a de-centralized and de-federated online community bound to such annoyances?

Funny as I got downvoted to oblivion for saying Bluesky was not really decentralized.

Bluesky is a for-profit company that is capitalizing on the Xodus. They may be better for the time being, but the march for more and more profit will end the same as it always does. Enshittification. They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

God damn it. People on the Turkey subreddit were running a campaign to move from X to Bluesky because X was honoring the requests of the Turkish Government to take down footage of police brutality and shit.

I and many others have told people to NOT go to Bluesky because it was "owned" by Jack Dorsey and could get bad as Twitter did.

Of course, absolutely nobody listened. Some celebrities also even moved to Bluesky (including the comedian and actor Cem Yılmaz, one of the most known amongst the people. Basically the Jim Carrey of Turkey.) And now THIS happens. Bravo.

I remember seeing some telling others to use OperaGX because a Turkish PARODY ACCOUNT of the official X account posted a meme that supports the protests. I said it's stupid to support OperaGX because of who is behind it and one of them had the balls to say "Bruh like a browser changes anything your info is everywhere"

So mind boggling.

Fake Fediverse is fake.

Fuck Turkey and fuck however they want it spelt.

Don't replace X with Bluesky! Go to Mastodon and other Federalised platforms. That is the only way to escape corporate-sponsored fascism.

I can't believe it! Someone who chose to use a centralized platform instead of Nostr was banned?! It's so shocking!

https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lmvrdmkdnc2d

Censorship requests from the Turkish government are only being applied in the official bluesky app. Third-party apps continue to show censored posts. Feels like that might be relevant

Did anyone actually expect Bluesky to be different to any other corporate-run social media platform? What was the point of jumping from one to another?

Just more proof that FOSS and proper decentralisation (yes I know that Bluesky is technically federated but this halfway house shit they’re doing is not proper decentralisation) that are the only things that will save us.

If only there was a decentralised alternative, that was more or less immune to this… LOL

What was the post

I've been on the fence about joining Bluesky but I think I am not going to bother.

But it's a decentralized service! /s

The relevant question here is if you are in Turkey because if you aren't this is a much bigger deal than if you are.

Also, does "restricted access to your account for users" mean for all users or just for those in Turkey?

And so it begins

Because they are a company and a board of ethical leaders to ensure it doesn't turn to shit is no guarantee it doesn't turn to shit. BlueSky is something a corporate mindset person creates because that's the only thing they know. Have a problem to solve? Needs company + board.

Watching how quickly all these companies crumble, it really is astonishing the Obama and Clinton didn't take on Fox News for all it's bullshit.

i don't get why this is shocking; if you do business in a country you have to follow local laws.

I believe there are laws in the EU that would be violated by many rightwing posts (such as glorifying nazis in Germany). The litmus test would be if a complaint about these violations would cause an account to be banned.

What's the point of Bluesky if they're just going to bow before authoritarianism?

From the wording, it looks like they're just going to georestrict their content to places that are not Turkey.

Far from a problem, unless of course, your primary following is from Turkey; or that's where you live.

I don't blame bluesky here, they operate internationally, and they have to obey the laws of the locations they operate in. Personally I'm wondering what kind of Internet posts are restricted in Turkey? Who has laws to say you can, or cannot say things on the Internet? Besides... I guess, China, and obviously illegal things like CP....

Were they posting CP?

IDK, I've never used bluesky. I barely used xitter, back when it was relevant, if I were to use anything as a replacement it would be Mastodon.

Anyways.

This seems like a good place to put this meme I made a couple months ago

Is Bluesky the next X ??? Kissing the ring of authoritarian leaders?

Is anyone surprised?

As a result, we are required to review the request in accordance with local regulations and Bluesky's policies.

Why the fuck is BlueSky, an American company, required to comply with Turkish demands...?

And so it begins...

Can Turkey ask for any account/post to be banned regardless of where a post was written? For example, if I were to register there and called Erdogan a dictator who suppresses the Turks by breaking down the media and justice system and he is taking political prisoners; could he then ask BlueSky to get my account removed because i'm breaking a law in Turkey even though I am not in Turkey? That sounds totally crazy. Like from now on you can make laws on your citizens, your lands and all of the internet? What the fu. e: typo

Just yesterday I saw a post on lemmy that said that turkish xitter users were migrating to bluesky. Didn't bother opening to see the comments or read it. Seeing this now, all I can think is "well, what did they expect?"

The site/system made by the guy who enabled Trump and Neo-Nazis to be platformed is bowing down to authoritarians? I'm shocked, shocked to find out that the rich person obeys the other rich people!

BSKY is full of cam girls. I started getting random follows from people with no posts, and nothing on their profiles except links to the pages where they sell videos of themselves. Went straight to mastadon.

Oh look, once again, I was right.

Be shocked if it wasn't so common.

How shocking, Mastodon remains the best option

Should I pretend to be surprised? 🙀 lol

Well as a company bluesky, would need to abide by the laws of where it is offering it's services.

They can't just ignore the request of the country's government. They could either challenge it in court or stop offering their services altogether.

it looks like they are restricted only from turkey. the account in question looks fine from other countries, or through VPN.

So back to Mastadon then. I was not using BSKY much anyway to be fair.

Jack Dorsey earning those libertarian bona fides.

I'm not even surprised lol. Just another reason why communities like Lemmy and forums are better than any social media platform. Man I hope the Fediverse keeps growing, the more people that see through this bs and jump ship and find us over here in the Fediverse the better.

So now we'll have a whole plethora of social networks for everyone to isolate into their own bubbles essentially because our global leadership is comprised of children who can't play nicely with each other. Sounds good, sign me up for TurkmeniNet.

Do we have any information as to what kind of stuff was in there that got censored? I see alot of people here claiming its some political move towards censorship. Do we know this person was not using their account to trade grass and other nono products openly?

I don't get why they listened to the Turkish government. There not (to my understanding) registered there or have any kind of assests there.

If I understand this correctly, then this restriction only applies to Turkey. Which is exactly what you'd expect. If you violate local laws, then there are local restrictions. On a global level, everyone else can still interact with you.

Have I understood this correctly?

How do we know the person behind this account was not selling grass?