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Rivian is the next automaker to adopt Tesla’s charging plugs | Ars Technica

arstechnica.com Rivian is the next automaker to adopt Tesla’s charging plugs

Existing Rivian owners will be able to use an adapter to charge at Superchargers.

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It's this a good or bad thing?
- I'd recommend watching Technology Connection's take on it, as he was pretty outspoken against the Tesla plug a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjny4u5THpU
- I just think of it like everything transitioning to USB-C. It's not good or bad really, it just is. Standardization in these types of situations is usually good but I'm sure some people will be upset that Tesla is involved.
  
  But is NACS open sourc? And license free? I am sceptic with Tesla having control over this. USB C is open standard.
  
  Tesla has released all the specifications, so other charging manufacturers can include NACS cables on their charging stations. Several have already indicated an intent to do so.
  
  What Tesla will charge for is access to their charger network, which is probably fair since it costs a lot of money to build and maintain the network.
  
  I for one am very glad to hear this news because the supercharger network is Tesla's one remaining big competitive advantage, and I'll be glad to see all the other car companies more on equal footing with them.
  
  Yes, Tesla made it open source last year:
  
  https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-open-sources-its-connector-to-take-on-CCS-with-half-the-size-twice-the-power-North-American-Charging-Standard.668196.0.html
  
  At the same time everything that can run on 5v is transitioning to NOT supplying said 5v power converter. I guess we are all supposed to have built in usb power outlets in every room.
  
  You are saying that like avoiding having a box of unused cables in every single household is a bad thing. Including an USB C cable with every device when the average household already has more than an handful of them is wasteful.
- It is probably a good thing in that the industry is settling on one standard.
- As someone who isn't sold on electric vehicles yet, this is a very good thing for me. Proprietary charging stations are one of my main reasons for not buying an EV yet.
  
  It's so wild to me that the USA is such a clusterfuck of charging ports and networks. Here in Germany, we have bascially CCS for fast charging and a smaller plug (that is compatible) for slow charging. So every car can charge on every station - with very few expectations. Charging my car is as simple as charging my phone.
  
  well that's mostly because the EU required that it become the standard. without similar regulation in the US it's just taken a bit longer for all of the manufacturers to consolidate on one solution
  
  Do Tesla cars in Europe have CCS or do they have to stick to only Tesla brand chargers?
  
  I remember reading they were forced to go with CCS.
  
  Yes, all Teslas in Europe have CCS
  
  CCS. I can charge my Opel (german car brand) on a Tesla charger, and I can charge a Tesla on any other charger.

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