Sanders introduces bill to raise minimum wage to $17 by 2030, benefits nearly 22 million Americans
Sanders introduces bill to raise minimum wage to $17 by 2030, benefits nearly 22 million Americans
If only Democrats had the stones to do this.
Not fast enough not soon enough.
Even terrorist organizations have higher minimum wage than the USA.
He could just as well introduce one to raise it to $17000 and a car as bonus.
He knows it has no chance so that's why he does it.
The sheepdog is virtue signaling again pretending to be progressive.Guy has been pretending to be progressive for like 60 years. Thats some dedication.
Or could it be that you have built a system where change isn’t really an option.
I have built nothing as a European.
And their system is indeed rigged and especially the last one with both wings of the uniparty successfully trying to keep 3rd parties of the ballot.
Bernie in his function as sheepdog is allowed and cultivated by that very system since it keeps voters from chosing actual change.
IDK where they get their news from but they keep making the same mistakes.A nice quote from Karl Marx, The Civil War in France:
*Nowhere do “politicians” form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics.
It is well known that the Americans have been striving for 30 years to shake off this yoke, which has become intolerable, and that in spite of all they can do they continue to sink ever deeper in this swamp of corruption.
we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends – and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it.*
Sweet. $17/hr * 40 = $680 a week * 4 = $2720 a month * 52 = $32640 all before tax. Still not enough to live on.
Yeah, the “$15 an hour” debate has been going on for so long that the number has realistically increased to ~$23 per hour. And if a $23/hr minimum wage makes you balk, maybe you should consider how little you’re being paid for the job you currently do.
And in five years, it'll seem like even less.
By 2030, $17 will be the equivalent of $5/hr. Can we just skip the bullshit and tie minimum wage to 2xSGA@40hr/wk? Right now that'd be about $18.70
What is SGA?
Substantial Gainful Activity. It's a metric used in the US which is adjusted each year. Currently it's $1620/mo.
Screen Guild... Actors
Is this a joke...?
It’ll need to be $400 by 2030 to keep up with Trumpflation.
It already realistically needs to be between 25-30 an hr to even be considered a living wage.
Trump proposes bill to make minimum tip $17.
Should read "benefiting all Americans"
How this would help Chileans?
Hurr hurrrr
The fight for $15 movement started 13 years ago. $15 in 2012 money is equal to over $20 in 2025 money. It's taking the most progressive senator we've got to even suggest a pittance that is below what we've been asking for for over a decade.
Median one bed apartment rent, across the entire US, is $1550 as of Feb 2025.
Lets knock 20% of that off, to approximate a median studio apartment instead, give some leeway to poorer parts of the country.
(there are not as good or reliable general stats counted for studio apartments, but a studio being 20% less than a one bed is... hopefully a reasonable, napkin math aporoximation)
Ok, that's $1240.
Alright, now we use the 'rent should be 30% of your income' rule.
Thats $4135 a month, rounded up very slightly to the nearest 5.
Ok, 40 hours a week, roughly 4 weeks a month = 160 hours.
4135 / 160 = $25.85, again rounded up to the closet 5 cents for simplicity, so thats your actual minimum 'living wage'.
If you wanna say a studio should be 30% off a one bedroom?
Math works out to roughly $22.60
If you wanna say an actual one bedroom should be the standard, works out to about $32.60
Any way you look at this, $17 an hour is too low, that's still... you can't even afford a studio (as in, you cannot pass the rent to income threshold without a cosigner or double deposit or somethingnon your lease) you need roommates, you're still living with your parents.
And it is $17 in 2030.
Here from Europe, let me recommend one thing we do well: we link our equivalent of social security to the average wage growth, not to inflation.
This ensures that all voters benefit from wage growth. And thus all voters demand the same thing from the politicians.
Fuck that you centrist. Abolish the wage system.
...what would that even look like?
Abolition of for profit companies. Worker owned collectives that split all of the profits from the labour between the workers who produced the profit, as the workers vote to decide how to spend it.
Anarcho Syndicalism.
Here's what the Vancouver IWW has to say about abolishing the wage system: https://www.vancouveriww.org/mean-by-abolition-wage-system/
NO!! Not a number! Tie it to inflation, as a proportion!! Picking a specific number is what got us in this mess in the first place
If you look at the timeline in the article, post-2030 the act states that it would be indexed.
That would have made a much better headline
Jesus fucking Christ why didn't you do this back when the Democrats were in power Bernie? Stop fucking virtue signaling. You could have proposed this 4 years ago and it would have had a good chance of actually passing. And that's exactly why you waited until now, isn't it?
It saddens me that Bernie is the least broken politician we have, and he still sucks.
Is this a joke? He's literally been doing this shit for like 60 fucking years my dude
I'm not even an American and don't follow Sanders, but with a quick search I found news articles from 4 years ago with Sanders proposing to increase minimum wage to $15 https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-top-democrats-introduce-bill-raising-minimum-wage-to-15/
americans don't deserve anything, stop using their death machine money
the USA is running a death camp in El Salvador called CECOT
the USA is running a death camp in El Salvador called CECOT
True
stop using their death machine money
Good advice, though a little hard to do if you are in America.
americans don’t deserve anything
And, here's your source of downvotes. People, even really shitty people, deserve food, water, and shelter, at a minimum. Shitty people (including a too large number of Americans) don't have to be heard, and shouldn't be given any political power, but they are still sentient beings that didn't ask to be here, and don't deserve pain or suffering.
"here's the source of your downvotes" even if you weren't posting from infosec, you're flashing your career choices all over the table
don't take that as a knock, i just find it humorous
i do not care about the popularity of my opinions but thanks
There's more than just one prison, and the conditions in their older prisons are worse than CECOT
They only mention livable wages when they are not in a position to do anything about it.
We need $25 now, not $17 in 5 years. Bernie has become a fucking joke and a shadow of who he used to be
Or how about just no wages? Kick out the capitalists stealing the profits and divide that amongst the workers.
Abolish the wage system.
Amazing how every time they're powerless they wanna raise the minimum wage (to what we asked in 2012), legalize weed, codify Roe v. Wade, and this time stop Trump.
If they get a hold of Congress who much do you think they'll go for it? Assuming we have elections again.
They only mention livable wages when they are not in a position to do anything about it.
In fairness, this was just as unlikely to pass under democrats.
Democrats:
"Yeah we could have helped the people who voted us in, but fuck that, I love Republican policies, they make my bank account look so much nicer when the lobbyists pay us both."
I assume that's her personal mantra. Fucking backstabber.
This remains democrats' last word on the minimum wage.
best we can do is $8 an hour
"$8 an hour? Think of the profits lost! It'll raise the cost of rent and groceries!"
Ohhhh good job Bernie! I'm sure Johnson will get RIGHT on it! The House you lost will surely vote for that. And the Senate you lost will surely confirm it. And president Musk will absolutely sign it!
He was trying this under the useless democrats as well.
Well some of those people will surely be brown and poor, so no way R is going to go for this.
I can hear Trump laughing and snickering with his cronies
Some of them are even republicans.
Unfortunately wont happen