It pisses me off to no end when people conflate legitimate criticism of Democrats with tankie rhetoric. The Dems are complacent, listless, corrupt, and lazy. They refuse to stand up to the Republicans until it's too late or doesn't matter.
The people want progressive politics: universal healthcare, living wage, affordable housing, education, and food. We want a sustainable future and an end to corporate greed.
The donor class, superpacs, and other sources of dark money in politics are what keep nearly everyone corrupt. Its addictive.
I’m just punching right. Tell the Dems to stop standing there.
And it was the Dems who sued the socialist candidate off of the ballot in my state. Not the GOP. They occupy leftist space to prevent leftward movement, while Dems ally with the GOP to push through fascism.
"Tankies" made no measurable difference in the 2024 election. There's next to none of them in the USA. Go ahead: ask real people in your offline life what a tankie is, and see if even one single person has even heard that word.
Unless, of course, you're just applying that word to anyone whos not a Republican that's criticizing the dems. Then I suppose you'll find "tankies" everywhere.
It feels like a word that's just being used to divide the left.
What a stupid post. Yeah it's progressives' fault mango Mussolini is POTUS /s. This is a talking point manufactured by MAGA handlers that some broadly Dem-supporting people choose to broadcast, now outside the US. This is a type of brainrot that undermines critical thinking, divides the left, and helps elect the right. Canada deserves better
As always, point me towards someone supporting Trump on here and I promise I'll give them an earful. There just aren't a lot of them on here. If I spend less time arguing against voting for Trump it's for the same reason I don't spend much time on here arguing against puppy murdering - because most people already agree that murdering puppies/voting for Trump is bad.
Sorry for disrupting the circlejerk, I guess? Like yeah I guess we could spend all our time denouncing puppy murderers and complementing each other over being enlightened enough to recognize puppy murder as bad, but I'd really rather not.
Seriously blaming the tankies again? How bourgeoisie of you lol
If you want to blame something, blame the media. Both news and social media have completely sold out for profit. You CANNOT have a democracy if vast parts of your population is being misinformed. And this started with talk radio in rural areas many decades ago. And the democrats did nothing - because they are not left. Thanks for all the empty "Hope and Change" Obama!
So yeah, blame socialists all you want but their critique was valid.
You need a revolution or reformation. A massive change in who owns the means of communication to have a free press again that is not purely profit driven. Can you even imagine that? Is that something you would say? No. You'd rather blame and denigrate socialists and call them tankies. Look at the mass protests, it seems the libs aren't even calling for Trump to step down and demand new election lol. People would rather bow to unjust laws and simplistic principles than believe in democracy. Of course they are all being stage managed.
I thought Democrats were better than Republicans because Democrats will at least listen. Why would I waste my time criticizing the side that doesn't listen.
Republicans are always evil. They don't do anything good. Ever. They're a known quantity. That's what we expect of them.
We expect the Dems to be better. And they get the smoke when they fail at that. Cutting Corp taxes. Border crackdowns. Genocide. Those are things that should exclusively be the pervue of Republicans. If dems run to the right they will always lose because the right was so triggered by Obama that policy doesn't matter to them whatsoever. It's purely teamsport for them. You can't appeal to them in any way. They see a (D) and vote against that person. Dems would never lose another election if they went only as far left as Bernie Sanders. We would have a perpetually booming economy and a high standard of living. But even that is far too far for the DNC Services Corp. So we get a gameshow host and a car salesman destroying everything.
People criticize the dems because they hope the dems might listen.
We need a way to have our voices heard if you don't want us shouting and protesting.
To reduce infighting amongst the democrats, create official avenues for grievances and disagreements to be settled that can actually influence party platform and trajectory without tearing the movement apart.
Use the settling of our varied perspectives to bind us so that our unsettled disagreements don't tear us apart.
Im an european socialist and thought tankies were a degoratory term for authoritarian communists. I did not think the few commies in the states mattered that much in your public debate. Or am misunderstanding everything about the meme?
As is tradition. In the Weimar Republic the communists were far too busy fighting the social democrats to put up any meaningful resistance against the Nazis.
Republicans are going to republican. Democrats at least have the pretense of representing their constituents interests.
It's like if an oil tanker that takes ten miles to stop was bearing down on a small passenger ferry. Sure it might be the fault of the tanker's crew but they can't stop and they won't stop. The democrats driving the ferry have the capacity to easily save everyone on board and simply refuse to do so. That's why people shout at them.
Honestly the fact that the entire country keeps getting mad at Democrats while taking an "Aw shucks, who hasn't tried to do a coup de tat or shifted blame for your actions onto a minority group. All is forgiven!" Attitude with Republicans, is...
Seems to be a lot of talk here about authoritarianism.
Is demanding responsible speech over free speech absolutism "tankie"?
....because the US is demonstrating exactly what happens when you give free speech to fascists and don't monitor their "religion".
A U.S. President is literally trying to recreate the conditions of 1930s Germany by tanking the economy and isolating us from our international partners.
Stop looking for someone to blame and put out the current dumpster fire before it catches the grease.
Get out and protest. Get your boots on the ground.
The thing is that they don't govern. The MAGA crowd does nothing. There's no constructive legislation. Everything proposed is to remove some imaginary barrier that keeps society from running well, but they make things worse. Even with good legislation, some people are wronged, and get left behind. Conservatives use the bad stories to justify doing nothing good.
The whole narrative with firing "unelected government bureaucrats" who are ruining our lives is BS from the start. The "unelected government bureaucrats" are simply employees doing the bidding of our elected officials. Trump has every right to pursue an agenda of shutting down institutions and culling the herd of government employees - he won the election. The correct way is through Congressional legislation. The problem is, that he and Musk/Doge DO NOT have the support of the people. The MAGATS know the legislation would never pass with the approval of the people, through their elected representatives - so they go about doing things illegally.
Punching down by portraying people you theoretically want on your side as villains is not a winning strategy for anyone left of centre. Dividing people only helps the right, no matter who is doing it. I don't even think ordinary folks who've been conned into believing (Maple) MAGA-esque propaganda should automatically be bashed in every case-- just persons in positions of significant power. The priority should always be to seek opportunities to genuinely win folks over.
Question: If you are in a country outside the US; And you unironically love china you see them as a viable alternative to America , as a market and for their technological achievements; are you considered by Americans to be a Tankie? I've always had the idea that "Tankie" equals "traitor" in the eyes of Americans.
Committing genocide and Imperialist plunder on the entire planet is being "slightly corrupt?" Moreover, where are the Communists that don't also hate the Republicans?
I dont know what you would expect anyone to say. Is there some surprise piece of wisdom about GOP politics that literally everyone in the country doesnt already know?
The population is being dumbed down by our education system and smart devices/ social media. In addition to that, Republicans' media strategy completely dominated with this election cycle. Democrat campaigns were being run like all of them were a bunch of seniors citizens who couldn't navigate the current media environment.
Republicans controlled the narrative on most all of the issues.
this is one of the biggest problems on the left, granted these people generally do bitch about trump and his admin.
The problem is that they bitch about everyone, short of lenin literally rising from the dead, nobody would ever sate their hunger for bloodlust, they only wish to see the world burn so they can be angry about it.
OFC this one is a bit more specific to the commie left, but this is also generally true amongst the left as well, we're too busy bitching about stupid shit, to actually do anything productive most of the time.
Republicans ran on a purely populist agenda, that resonated with many non voters. If Dems had an ounce of sense, instead of digging their heel on 'vote losing' points, they would have acknowledged the merit of those populist rhetoric to defang republicans.