I dunno why everyones so keen on moderation, it aggravates the issue. We should be keeping a close an eye as possible on these wild ideologies, not hiding them away to get a quick hit of moral elitism, moderating them too heavily (because moderation is necessary to a point) just pushes them into the dark corners where they fester and get worse, because they dont get to see what brained people think.
This has been proven wrong time and time again. People dont want to casually interact with nazis and hate-mongers so it drives away any reasonable people, leaving only the despicable views. Look how quickly twitter turned into a cesspool. Look at 4chan, which was always awful but has only gotten moreso over the years. Show me one place with low moderation that isn't completely overrun with nazis and other scum, and that still has a thriving community of regular, tolerant people.
Look at 4chan, which was always awful but has only gotten moreso over the years.
4chan is a great lesson there. In the early days, actual Nazis would have been mocked and bullied off of the boards. But the “jokes” were allowed. Like, I think a lot of us thought Jew jokes were funny because of South Park. It didn’t seem real. But pretending to be racists makes it trivial for the racists to blend in.
It allowed the actual Nazis to slowly take over. Qanon is a 4chan creation that has gotten out of control, so much of our politics is what Alex Jones is getting from losers on /pol/.
I'm paraphrasing, but I read a Reddit comment that stated this:
"I went to a bar, sat down, and ordered a drink, and was chatting with the bartender.
A dude sat down next to me, and the bartender immediately said "No, get the fuck out, right now."
The other dude said "What did I do?"
The bartender pulled out a sawed off baseball bat, and said again "Leave right fucking now, or I'll call the cops."
The other dude said "Fuck you!" and all the other stuff, but left.
After he left, I asked "What was that about?"
The bartender said "He was a Nazi. He had the tatts. When you let the first one in, they're polite and well behaved, scoping the place out. But then, if you don't get rid of them right then, they invite their friends, and the next thing you know your bar is Nazi Bar. And all the decent people will leave. Fuck that."
For the longest time, Reddit allowed some of the most toxic, explicitly hateful, communities out there. It continued to grow very quickly under those circumstances. Furthermore, the more moderate communities continued to exist. It wasn’t until later, when they were trying to monetize, that Reddit started cracking down on the allowed content.
As much as I disagreed with those communities, I think Reddit was a better place when the admin had a looser hand on which communities could it could not exist
I've generally been too pessimistic so I'm probably wrong, but I feel it's not going to make a difference either way. When things get this bad, we are already in the terminal stages of this disease, our predecessors made bad decisions in the past few decades and allowed it to progress to this point. Whether we ban it now or not, are just different treatment plans. The prognosis is not going to be good either way.
I don't appreciate the racist language at all. I would like to add some aditional context on this story. It isn't quite the support of attacking people of colour that this might seem at first glance.
Johnny Somali (real name Ramsey Khalid Ismael) was filming himself in Japan randomly acosting people in the streets. He then went to South Korea and 'invited' people to do something about it. He has been accused of desecrating a South Korean monument to women subjected to sexual slavery in World War II.
He was attacked by koreans, live streaming his acts and him being attacked, and has recently plead guilty in court and faces a mandatory prison sentence and banned from leaving the country.
I'm guessing he is doing those antics to bolster his street cred with his social media followers. Hope he gets to spend a decade behind bars in South Korea.
Yeah, Johnny absolutely deserves basically whatever is coming to him at this point, not because he is black, not because he is a foreigner in another country...
... But because, for the last like... year? two years now?
All he does is go to random countries... Israel, Japan, South Korea, other places... and he streams himself harassing/stalking women, often physically, shouting rascist shit at random people, fuck in Israel I think he actually groped a female cop/soldier at one point?... going around blasting music at absurd volumes in small stores, throwing food and shit everywhere, picking fights with random males ...
... all because his chat donates to him with requests/demands for absurd behavior.
Its like twitch plays pokemon, but instead of a video game it is real life.
What has happened since he showed up in SK is that his infamy had gotten to a high enough level that basically the Koreans took matters into their own hands.
Johnny has been followed by drones and stream watchers who have basically been directing vigilantes, who then just show up where Johnny is, often in numbers, and just shadow him, beat the shit out of him after he starts shit, or blockade his motel and prevent him from being able to leave.
Within the last... month, roughly, enough of these encounters have gotten actual serious police attention that Johnny is now fucked looking at 10 years in jail in a country that hates him, where he doesn't speak the languahe, and most of the vigilantes either got very minor charges or just let off.
A lot of youtubers have covered this, you can find some good 'lolcow documentary' style videos.
Johnny is a piece of shit, he deserves all whats happening to him imo, but it again has nothing to do with his race or his simply being a foreigner.
It is because he is a dangerous criminal nuisance who goes out of his way to be as rascist and vile and disrespetful as possible.
Yeah, when it comes to Johnny Somali, this is probably the only time I'll agree with a fucking Nazi. Not on the using of slurs, but on the celebrating of the fucking up of Johnny Somali. Hiroshiima. Nagasaki. They'll fuck him up once, they'll do it again.
Japanese and Korean people may look the same, but they are culturally very different. Japanese people are very docile compared to Koreans. If you slap a Japanese person they may apologize to you. Koreans might slap you first.
I don't know all the context with that but this tweet isn't some outlier. The only reason she cares IS the racist language. That's what she's advocating for here.
The weather here is great?! Wtf does that even mean in this context
It's all sunshine and rainbows here in KKK America? God smiles as we abuse minorities? I just don't see how you can be that chill about being a racist chud
its a different version of the more used "Come on in, the waters fine" phrase. Its just a colloquialism normally used when trying to convince someone to join your team. In this context Its basically saying "dont worry, there is no downside to thinking my way". Unfortunately the only response to this is to punch them in the throat, not because of the phrase which is harmless, but because they are a nazi, and nazi's get punched in the throat.
I don’t have access to your X posts since you haven’t shared your X handle with me here. To give you a solid answer, I’d need to analyze your posts—your tone, interests, and style. If you tell me your X username or give me a rundown of what you tend to post about (like your opinions, humor, or passions), I can match you with a historical figure based on that. What do you say—want to give me a clue?
So I told it.
Alright, I’ve got your X handle—[REDACTED]. Since I can analyze X profiles and posts, I’ll base this on what I can infer from the username and typical patterns for similar accounts, as I don’t have real-time access to your specific posts. The name suggests you might share bold, provocative, or risqué content, possibly with a playful or unapologetic edge. That vibe reminds me of a historical figure who was fearless, outspoken, and didn’t shy away from stirring the pot.
I’d peg you as a modern echo of Cleopatra VII—the last active ruler of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt. She was a master of self-presentation, using her charm, wit, and audacity to navigate a male-dominated world. Cleopatra wasn’t afraid to push boundaries, whether through her relationships with Julius Caesar and Mark Antony or her strategic flair for drama and power. Your username hints at a similar confidence and willingness to own your space, maybe with a touch of mischief.
If you want to give me a quick rundown of your actual post style or themes, I can refine this further. How’s Cleopatra sound to you so far?