And it all seemingly went so well
And it all seemingly went so well
If I had a dollar for every time the Nvidia driver screwed me over I still couldn't order anything with it because my graphics driver wouldn't load.
Friends don't let friends mix Nvidia and Linux.
Meh, it's way better as it used to be. Even using Wayland. Currently a breeze, really.
Been experiencing random rendering glitches in Firefox since upgrading to 570.
Before that it was random video memory allocation faults after playing a game for some time.
And then there was the whole year where Wayland stopped working entirely after finally getting support.
But I guess you're right, it's definitely miles better than when I got the cursed thing 5 years ago.
It is alot better, I keep hesitating on dropping the money for an equivalent amd card. I keep telling myself I'll do vfio and try looking glass. Then I look into the config and shudder. I can deal with a restart a day.
RTX 3080 owner here. I get a black screen whenever I try to play a game after the desktop goes to sleep in Linux Mint. The only workaround is to restart the PC and play it before its screensaver comes on. The struggle is real.
lol lucky you that you can resume from sleep
Try a distro with a recent kernel and install newest proprietary nvidia drivers
Like fedora, openSuse TW, bazzite or endeavourOS
install newest proprietary nvidia drivers
On newer cards, the open source drivers work pretty well as of version 555. The process for installing them is usually very similar to the proprietary drivers, but there's often some flag you need to set to tell it to use the open source ones instead. For Fedora, the instructions are here: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Kernel_Open (ignore the part about it only working for data center GPUs, as that's no longer true)
sudo sh -c 'echo "%_with_kmod_nvidia_open 1" > /etc/rpm/macros.nvidia-kmod' sudo akmods --kernels $(uname -r) --rebuildIf you use Nvidia's installer, it automatically uses the open source driver instead of the proprietary one if you have a new enough GPU (20 series or newer)
I might recommend PopOs. It is also based on Ubuntu, is easy to use for beginners & tailored specifically for use with Nvidia. I've had great luck w/ my laptop that has Optimus.
Test it with a USB first. The link I provided is an alpha version of their latest release but you can also try the older, more stable version here.
I just got myself an AMD card and that's all I need, fuck Nvidia
Hell yeah! 🤜🤛
PopOS has the best support for Nvidia. It's basically plug-and-play. Mine is the RTX 3080.
I've also had a lot of luck with Bazzite so far too.
Fedora, Bazzite, and CachyOS are all pretty good distros for Nvidia. Still wish I'd gotten AMD though
PopOS is sadly far behind the latest Ubuntu release
Why I bought a steam deck even though I have a laptop that's better (although a lot older) mainly because my laptop won't work with Linux (yes including the latest drivers) because of the fucking Nvidia won't work properly.
Although tbh I rather play games on my steam deck with potato quality just because it's portable
I heard Intel GPUs has better Linux support than N*idia
Can confirm anecdotally. Put Bazzite on my Intel laptop, works like a dream. Couldn't install any distro - any - on my PC running a 4080. Had other friends test it and they couldn't either. Switched to AMD, zero issues just like Intel. What do I need a superpowered card for when most of the games I play are from 2016 anyway lmao
Intel is almost flawless, I say as someone who uses an Intel A750. It does have a bug where putting load on the GPU causes a dramatic increase in latency for GPU compute tasks, but that's mostly only important for VR. Flatscreen games work great.
why Intel over AMD? I thought AMD was the gold standard for Linux drivers. Did something change?
endeavourOS with Nvidia since 1,5 years... First on x11, and before several months moved to Wayland. Never had an issue related to the GPU. I'm not sure if the other distros have really such big problems or it's meme propaganda, that Linux isn't ready?
EndeavourOS shipped with the driver, right? Distros that do so tend to have the fewest problems with it, so you dodged a bullet there. A lot of problems arise during its install process or updates due to inconsistent integration or simply Nvidias incompetence (the driver module suddenly missing or not properly loading on a new kernel, stuff like that).
This was me with my 4070. Eventually figured it out, but WOW does Nouveau suck until you get the drivers working. Still, loving Fedora 42 more than Windows 10, so I'm not going back.
To be fair, Nouveau did phenomenal work (reverse-engineering the driver) they shouldn't have had to do if it wasn't for Nvidias stubbornness. Especially for older cards it's the way to go, and it really isn't their fault the proprietary driver sucks so much. Since Nvidia now finally fixes their shit with the new driver (hopefully) it wouldn't make sense to put too much work into supporting any RTX card anymore.
AMD and Intel have almost the same performance on Linux. NVIDIA has not though. I had something 10-15% less fps with my RTX 3070, even with a gaming distro, latest NVIDIA drivers running and proton-GE.
What’s the deal with Linux and Nvidia? Do the official drivers suck, or is it people not wanting to use a closed source driver but not having good open source drivers? I might have access to a good gaming PC soon but it has an Nvidia card.
The current official Nvidia driver is known to cause problems during install, during system updates or basically whenever it feels like it (when using Wayland, after hibernation, on rainy days…). Even the most well maintained distros regularly struggle with it, ran into trouble on both Mint and OpenSuse myself in the past.
If you don't have your distro already I'd suggest trying one that comes with the Nvidia driver preinstalled (they then also usually take care of all the small adjustments). Saves you some headache.
Those I can currently think off that ship the proprietary driver (in no particular order): ZorinOS, Pop!_OS, Nobara, Bazzite, EndeavourOS, TuxedoOS, SlimbookOS
The drivers have gotten a lot better over the last few years, and Nvidia even have an official open-source driver now, but there's still issues with them. Wayland works very well now, but not perfectly (especially on GPUs with low VRAM).
If you're on Linux and are buying a new GPU, stick to AMD. Their driver is part of the Linux kernel, it's more stable, and it gets all the newest features first.
I use Nvidia on Linux for over a decade now, never had a problem. Using the official closed source drivers. I don't know if AMD is better because I never tried it myself, but in my experience Nvidia is working as well as on Windows.
This is on desktop, I don't know about laptops. My experience is also limited to gaming, maybe it's bad for CUDA or something.
I have never had to do anything more than
sudo apt install nvidia-driver, even with wacky setups such as:- Nvidia GPU connected with an ExpressCard eGPU dock to a ThinkPad with integrated Intel graphics
- two Nvidia GPUs, an AMD GPU and an Intel GPU all in the same system
EDIT: debian btw
@DaPorkchop_ @jqubed try two nvidia GPUs, both with outputs active on wayland...
Nobara Linux has a dedicated driver manager to automate the process of managing NVIDIA drivers. I ran a 2060 for almost a year on Nobara with no issues thanks to the manager. I'm on AMD now and forevermore.
And now* nvidia launched Nova, instead of contributing to Nuveau for some reason. It’s like they want to take wind out of Nouveau.
What? Nova is a rewrite of Nouveau from scratch by Redhat devs to better support newer cards.
Oops, you’re right. I got confused with the three open source drivers available. Nvidia’s driver doesn’t have a good name. The point stands though.
Nvidia has helped the Nouveau devs by answering questions in the past, but they also have their own open source driver here: https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
I get that the lemmings here are enthousiastic about linux, but even as a developer, every time i work with linux, i end up facing the most annoying user hostile problems >_<...
Since this is gaming related, and i just faced one today: I bought a Legion Go (steamdeck like device), and put bazzite on it (steamos like os). And was trying to run visual pinball on it, which actually has a linux build. Try to run the linux build: shared library libbz2.so.1.0 not found.... Google around a bit: a yes, because that's a fedora distro, unlike most other distros, they named it libbz2.so.1 . But many apps assume libbz2.so.1.0 also exists so try to use that. Fair enough, i'll add a link with that name. Ah yes, this is a distro with a readonly filesystem. Lucklily as a dev i realized i can probably put the link in the folder of the program itself, and that indeed worked.
But ffs linux world, why do you fuck up such basic things like just agreeing on how you name basic shared dll's (googling for it i found people struggling with this when using python, so it's not something that rarely happens)....
I love the control linux offers, and got NAS and a little server running linux, and for the handheld it'll probably give me more battery life or performance too, so linux for sure has some benefits.
But if you have to be an expert just to get things f'ing made for linux to run due to stupid stuff like this.... whyyyyyy??????
Yeah, and if you call them out on it you're getting pillaged by at least a dozen FOSS-bros telling you that anyone who can't fix this on their own should go back to Mac or Windows, that it's your fault, your specific distro's fault or whatever their most favourite excuse for Desktop Linux' shortcomings are.
I'm just happy both the Gnome Foundation as well as KDE e.V. are working to fix a lot of this with Flatpak (incl. a payment backend), proper unified development toolchains, Human Design Guidelines, etc… now if there was a nice way to more or less bundle a portable Flatpak package with all its dependencies and have it install neatly when executed (have it be opened by Gnome Software / Discovery), that would be awesome (yes I know about that USB-stick feature, no it's not the same. Yes I know AppImage, no it's not the same).
Of course there'll always be those who'd like to stick with 90's concepts, software and even languages despite all the problems and make sure Linux stays exactly the way it is.
NVK is pretty cool but it is still pretty new
It is now supported in Mesa
CachyOS with KDE did the trick for me.
Nvidia hardware is great for anything besides gaming/daily driving. I use my nvidia card all the time for re-encoding large video files in h264. As soon as I can afford an amd though, video encoding will become the only thing I use nvidia for.
Why do people still assume Nvidia is bad? Anything 16 and above is working very well even under Wayland, I am facing close to zero issues, graphical issues are all gone
glad to hear you're not having issues. Wish we could all be so fortunate.