In the John version, he took a tree branch and his sandal and made a whip. Then he whipped the money changers until they ran out.
I think you've read an embellished version re the branch and sandal, but it's a fun story. I've always wondered how we're meant to imagine it - were there no guards? Was he that fearsome that the marketeers didn't group together? Did he have backup, a crowd?
Its not impossible that Jesus could have basically stirred up a riot that overwhelmed the Temple Guards, the smaller cadre of Jewish, religious guards dedicated to just maintaining order at the Temple, and managed to escape in the chaos.
Its... kind of implied, out right stated at various points in various gospels, that Jesus basically just has a massive, literal cult following of randos that just show up where he is, or follow him around, beyond the named disciples.
It doesn't take long after the temple shenanigans for Jesus to be betrayed by Judas, arrested by... either Roman guards, or a mix of Roman and Temple guards.
If there is any truth to the varying stories of Jesus life offered by the gospels, fucking up basically the most important public area in Jerusalem would absolutely be something the Roman garrison / prvosional government would crucify you for.
Local religious leaders complaining to their superiors about this Jesus troublemaker guy for months, hasn't really broken any serious laws the Romans actually care about ... and then he does that, now the Romans finally step in.
I may not have a totally historically accurate view here, but I think the Temple was specifically not guarded by Roman guards, as the Jews of the time would have viewed even their presence in the outer area as highly, highly sacrilegious, and instead the Temple itself had basically a small, local Temple guard outfit... sorta like the Vatican Guard in modern times, under the direct authority of the Pharisees.
Presumably the whole scene would have taken place in the 'Court of Gentiles', the rather large open space that is inside the outer Temple walls, but not inside the barrier, the Temple proper.
I'm not saying that this did for sure happen, but it does at least to me seem plausible.
He whipped the sheep and cattle. Why would he whip the merchants?
Because Jesus did not like the idea of a Holy place being used for base commerce, and specifically for charging exorbitant currency conversion rates, as well as exorbitant rates for various animals such as doves, which were ritually sacrificed to atone for various sins.
The merchants in the outer court were... basically specifically permitted to operate there, authorized by the Pharisees, who in turn took their own cut.
Its... kind of similar to the rejection of indulgences during the later Protestant Reformation.
If you can only be free of sin or ritually cleansed by rituals that require fairly pricey things... and you are too poor to afford what is required for you to undergo that ritual, then you are basically paywalling your spirtual cleanliness, too poor to become right with God.
https://piped.30p87.de/watch?v=FSDjNLZIOGw (for the german-speaking people)
Happy birthday TO THE GROUND! -Matthew 21:12
Profit-seeking with religion should not be A PART OF THE SYSTEM!
Yeah, except... it always has been. Since the invention of religion as a placebo against mortal fear, etc. 🤣 Place your safety in someone else, get domesticated, ... , can't bitch later. 🤷🏼♂️🖕🏽
I mean, I'm not blaming the parents or surrounding community for abetting centuries of oppression, exploitation, obfuscation, anti-intellectualism, and child rape... but any of them that decry their generations of continued complicity? Are fucking morons and a liability to everyone around them (as a risk of culty behavior, in the least) 🤢
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Jesus stormed into a temple and started whipping the living shit out of everyone. They were collecting money and were counting their spoils in the temple. They had made a mockery of a holy place.
In a similar vein, the government is in the pockets of big business and are collecting money and are counting in in the "temples" built by taxpayer money. Where is Jesus to whip them now?
Im not a christian or religious even, but that was a good story. I get what Jesus was doing and why he did it.
So want to know something even better? First criticism of fascist pigs is in the bible. The demon legion and their banishment uses a pig and is seen as a social criticism. Legion being the roman military as well, not just a large grouping.
I believe my name has great binds and I've done nothing but research.
Camel and the needle is often question why is it so ridiculous? A child needs to understand the rich are not an ally. Simply put, it is an obvious example to show how deliberately heaven is locked out. Heaven is a state of being reached here on earth, through reverence your name ascends with the thoughts of the people. It is artistic flare. In death you will be honored, remembered, and if you did great - canonized. (Heaven as a state of being is assumed because you only can make progress in life to reach it, extremely comparable to enlightenment. However buddhist traditions deliberately explore the physical, an important aspect assumed in the bible)
It's why I find it so difficult that I agree with the saint hood of luigi becoming a real thing. He killed a leviathan but awoke something more.
The tower of babel? A beautiful story about how the world's rich built a tower. Why? Many reasons, personally with god actively striking it down narratively. I see it as a direct act being defended from, so I agree with the imagery of rich men trying to cheat themselves into heaven. Do you really think they would just allow entrance into this tower? A public service?
The story of the good Samaritan is pretty obvious. The system in place for religious and spiritual folk, the ones meant to care, is broken. Status/money is more important. Even priestly purity cannot act. It takes people helping others, regardless of creed, gender, race, etc.
I just need a whip I guess
Has anyone used religious freedom to successfully fight against vandalism charges like this? I feel like Christians might have a valid case with this Supreme Court. They won't even make "Christian companies" sign paperwork for their employees to get the healthcare they say violates their (?) religious beliefs that are not at all biblical, so an individual doing as Jesus does should be an easy win. Hell just say you were praying over a football team during the vandalism and you should be golden, right?
the key is understanding that conservatives' religion is conservatism. any challenge to their own views through religion must be anti-christ worship (even though they're the ones obviously following the anti-christ at this point)
Exactly if they actually followed teachings of Jesus they would be "tree hugging leftists".
Conservatives just exploit Christianity for their own selfish goals.
It's insane to me that conservatives hide behind religion and idolize people with incomprehensible amounts of wealth. It also occurs to me that none of these extremely wealthy people who are seen as leaders have any grasp on the teachings of Christianity and are not concerned with the afterlife.
I'm not saying having wealth is inherently sinful but having the means to effect positive change and instead continuing to line your pockets while the world burns when you already have enough wealth to live a hundred or thousand lifetimes in absolute luxury probably earns you a special place in hell, if it exists.
obviously this doesn't matter because Christians don't actually read the bible
Destruction of equity totally cool totally legit.
Is it destruction of property when said property is illegally set in your (father's) residence?
Because that's the reason behind this. He wasn't just making a ruckus because reasons. The community in there was kinda using the property against the agreed upon terms.
If anything, he could have called the cops (Romani ite domum) on them
