While I love my full-sized keyboard, respectfully - who cares. The whole idea of a PC is the freedom to use whatever you want.
Keyboards, controllers, speech to text, a wii-mote, literal bananas/bread, eye/blink trackers, whatever suits you best. Insisting there's a best device for everyone doesn't change people's minds and just leads to hostility when we should be glad more people are using the device that makes them happy. One day you might be one of them when your circumstances or preferences change.
sorry but I agree. numpad masterrace. say no to degenerate keyboards.
Long live the numpad!
I was a cashier, then a bookkeeper during the time when both heavily used the "10-key" and got really fast at touch typing numbers. Not as fast now, but I would be absolutely lost without it for spreadsheets, calculations, etc. I wouldn't even consider a keyboard without one!
The fuck do you people need the num pad on your daily driver? Are you all deviant accountants or retro computer enthusiasts typing in code from magazines?
I have a split 40% because I type for a living and normie keyboards destroy my wrists.
This post is looking for a war 🤣
I love this meme, but I feel like including TKL in the circle would be a little more fitting. I know I'm a little biased for being a TKL user, but they really aren't that esoteric. Every key is where you expect it. It just doesn't have a numpad.
The 96% actually looks reasonable
Ah yes, because all people need to enjoy what I enjoy
Number pads are obsolete. If you need to type more than one number at a time, you should be asking yourself "What am I doing wrong such that I have to type all these numbers out?" We live in an age where every document is digital, and number pads are exclusively useful for transposing numbers from paper in bulk.
They're not even a good design, there's no tab, only enter, so they don't even support putting numbers into a spreadsheet super well.
Like so many things, it really depends on what you're doing. I've worked a lot of different jobs, and some absolutely require a numpad and some I've never touched it. What people really need is programmable keyboards. If you need a numpad you don't have to even move your hands if you program it right. Same with function keys. It's better for you long term. So I'd actually suggest a smaller but programmable keyboard for everyone, even if they don't use the numpad, plenty of great features on these keyboards.
You'll have to pry my 70% and 75% keyboards from my cold dead hands. Smaller keyboards are much more ergonomic if you need to also regularly use the mouse.
Calling a 96% a mental disorder says more about you, OP than a friggin keyboard.
My daily keyboard's a 40%.
I also use a keyboard with a numpad. And I have a standalone numpad for rare occasions.
"He said the truth", but they hated him.
I’m a StarCraft player, which means that I do not need the numkeys and absolutely have a mental disorder. Why do I do this to myself? Mama Mia 😞
Sorry I have a TKL with a separate numpad that does not get much use.
I've been trying a 75% tenkeyless but I do miss the number block haha. I really want to switch to a split ergo though, but it's a bit of investment to learn and configure.
I’m surprised by the love here for the number pad! I saw mainly benefits for getting a 60 or 65% when I was considering a keyboard kit:
- More space for moving my mouse to the left. I play FPS games with a pretty low sensitivity, and I used to flick my thumb into my keyboard.
- More portable. My keyboard can connect with Bluetooth or usb-c so it’s nice to be able to use with a tablet
- Less switches to lube and install when I assembled it
- No redundant keys, though I had to learn traditionally typing numbers. But now I don’t have to move my hand position to type them.
I do prefer vim for text editing, so I have less use for some of the special keys. But they’re still nice to have for shortcuts or keybinds.
my favorite keyboard that i can remember was some bullshit off-brand apple thing from the early 2000s when USB accessories were super novel. rescued from a dumpster, not related to other Apple trash that belonged in the dumpster. full size numpad, super satisfying clicky clacky. several different shades of puke in color. took that to work and told IT to take their stuff and go
36 keys... I will outpace you, including special characters and numbers
For my own mental health I can only see the full and the tkl.
I use a Lily58 for work, and it's excellent. Obviously mine looks much different than the ones on this product page, but it's this layout.
No you don't
tkl || gtfo
TKL for the win
I have brain damage :)
I went from 65% to 60% and am very happy!
100% correct.
real af ngl
I use my numpad to move and resize windows. A lot of Openbox setups I used utilized the feature, and I try to replicate it on whatever DE or WM I use.
i love my 60% keyboard. i rebound the caps lock key to be a modifier key that swaps the functions of several keys on the keyboard. i basically have two keyboards stacked on top of each other that i can switch between at will. e.g., when caps lock is held: the number keys turn into Fn keys, WASD turns into the arrow keys, and N, M, < turn into the volume down, mute, and volume up keys, respectively.
i also changed the rgb colors on the keyboard so this is all color coded in case i forget.
75% + 4x4 macropad
laughs in K95
I've been using full size my whole life but it seems like TKL is my next logical step because I need more mousing space.
I will ask this here maybe somebody got an idea.
I currently have a Corsair K95 with the macro key row to the left, I really want to use a TKL keyboard so I don't bump into it all the time with my mouse. At the same time I would also like to have a numpad are there any keyboards that combine those two things so a row of macro keys and a numpad (southpaw) on the left?
Update: Mountain.gg has a keyboard like that. They were acquired by be quiet! and they are basically releasing my dream keyboard with the Dark Mount will be grabbing one ASAP. Linux support, hot swappable switches, very modular looks great so far.
I like my 1800 compact
It's only a problem for games like Arma that have a bums for every damn key.
96 and 1800 are where it is at. Via is a bonus
I was looking to get a mechanical keyboard. 8bitdo seemed to be recommended by some folks, but they don't have the full-sized one with the 10-key here in Japan. Looks like I'm waiting.
Glad to know I'm in the clear with my little 40%. Or is my mental so disordered that its come full circle back to an actual keyboard?
Imagine the market being saturated with all kinds of keyboards in various form factors and layouts and someone holding you accountable for what you're using.
I used to think I can't do without an F-row. Nowadays I use a bunch of 60-ish boards (a Boardwalk, a Lily58, an Elora) and it's all fine. Even back when I was using a 75%, I was used to have e.g. the arrows on IJKL on a layer (of course it doesn't work well for games, but for things like text editing I'd argue it's even better than dedicated keys). In general I'd suggest to everyone to challenge themselves a little bit with things that don't seem good at first but might end up being useful in the long run.
I dropped my full sized keychron a while back and the pcb got screwed up at the usb c port, so I'm stuck on a 60%. It's nice to have the extra desk space, but I'd be completely lost if I didn't have a macropad. Even still, it's kind of a pain in the ass sometimes. Eventually I'll be not-broke enough to justify getting a new pcb, hopefully, but I'm not even sure how to order just a pcb from them. Giant pain in the ass.
I do like my little Newman board, though. It has some nice linears that I lubed up and I've got a tape mod on it. I miss qmk but it's better than a membrane at least.
Originally I picked it up to use with my phone so I could get work done on the road without slowing my typing speed to a crawl and grappling with autocorrect. Made a decent backup!
Ilove 75% keebs soooo much !
nah 75%'s are more popular than tkl right now for a reason, its more compact and gives you basically the same function.
