Trump says Biden’s pardons are now ‘void and vacant’ after autopen controversy
Trump says Biden’s pardons are now ‘void and vacant’ after autopen controversy
President ranted about previous pardons on Truth Social and issued new threat to January 6 investigators
By his logic, we could treat Trump's pardons as 'void and vacant' as well.
What, are you suggesting that our virile Supreme Leader, renowned for his stamina and attention span, didn’t sign all 1,600 J6 pardons by hand?
I hate when articles like this use words like controversy. There is no controversy when someone just makes up that a standard thing is now an issue.
That's the Fox model. Have your talking head invent visit on the morning program, have them debate it on the afternoon program, then have the evening program report on the controversy.
after autopen controversy
There go the media again implicitly giving credence to Trump's nonsense. There was no "autopen controversy" except Trump making this groundless assertion. They make it sound like he's responding to a real controversy.
This is another one of those ‘scary and must riot’ thresholds. The presidential pardon powers are absolute. If he attempts to dismantle this… much like dismantling the 1st Amendment that he has already begun to do… rioting and articles of impeachment should have already begun.
I mean, I’m not really sure presidential pardons should even exist, but they do, and it’s a problem that Trump is trying to get around them to persecute the opposition party.
Presidential pardons most definitely should NOT exist. But also, F Trump.
This is another one of those ‘scary and must riot’ thresholds.
Americans are known to miss that boat. Remember when Americans rioted over the 1985 MOVE bombing in Philadelphia when they dropped bombs on the city and let blocks burn? Or that time when Americans rioted over the police and government firebombing Tulsa? Or that time Americans rioted over the people who caused the '08 financial crisis not receiving justice?
Inb4 Trump starts issuing executive orders with "constitutional amendments".
Need more riots with guns please
Ridiculous. A man who breaks laws and violates the constitution daily calling out his predecessor for using the wrong kind of pen while attempting to protect people from persecution. If there were a functioning justice system this would be dismissed out of hand.
My concern here is whether anyone is actually going to stand up to him. He's clearly flagging that he's going to go after these people and it's going to be dependent on whether the DOJ actually pushes back or not.
Expecting the courts to save US democracy? How's that been working so far?
If this sticks, then maybe the next democrat in office can reverse all of the Jan 6 pardons?
That is wishful thinking. The democrats have never responded in kind to republicans breaking precedent. If there's any lesson to be learned from the 2024 election, it is that democrats hold "precedent", "decorum", and "mature pragmatism" to be more important than winning (or quelling fascism).
It's the same wishful thinking as people who were saying "Biden could use the new presidential inmunity SCOTUS ruling to legally assassinate trump!"
Understand that both democrats and republicans are driving us off a cliff.
Yep - I’m not going to hold my breath to see those people held accountable.
He’s also trying to draw attention away from the illegal deportations they did over the weekend.
Sounds like a sovereign citizen “where’s the wet ink signature?” kind of complaint.
It's not a complaint. It's a pretense and excuse to persecute people he doesn't like.
Man I am getting so tired of saying “I fucking told you so” to so many people.
Must feel good to be morally superiors to everyone. I bet it’ll feel good too knowing you were right when the gestapo come and take you and your family away. But hey, you sure told em! /s
Stop with the “high ground” bullshit and get out there and actively do something about it.
Fuck off dude. I’ve been going to protests for this shit for a fucking decade, and trying to inform friends and family on the nuance of this shit for about the same length of time. My sister is married to a dark-skinned Indian dude; my niece is mixed-race. I have literal skin in the game when the white supremacists come looking for undesirables.
Like?
Jumping up and down screaming at a building with a sign does absolutely nothing.
ha, says the guy who wants to make things declassified by his thoughts alone.
Well, he's not in prison for treason or anything related to classified documents being mishandled, soooooooo.......
Rule of law means nothing in the US anymore unless you're poor. If it mattered, we would have had different presidential candidates from the start.
If anyone still cares in the government, none of them care enough to actually do anything but stand by and watch. Maybe give a half-hearted "yeah way to take a stand" after the fact when someone gets dragged out of the room by the fascists.
Excellent domain name for your instance, by the way. Absolutely horrifying in just the right way.
In fact, every law that wasn't written by hand with an ink-dipped quill is illegitimate! The magic spells won't work if we don't follow the rituals exactly.
All of these statements read of sovereign citizen crud.
See many posts here: !insanepeoplefacebook@lemmy.world
Making it even more clear that he never expects there to be another president.
Something here is "void and vacant" to be sure, but it isn't Biden's pardons.
Last week, the group challenged the legitimacy of the orders signed by Biden claiming that an “autopen signature” was used across almost “every document” it could find.
However, a Fox News examination of President Donald Trump’s executive orders during his first and second administrations found “the signatures were also the same.” Twenty-five of Trump's signatures on the Federal Register’s website from across both terms also found signature matched, according to a separate analysis by the Daily Mail.
The king declares.....
So is trump now able to attack biden's family as well as everyone who tried to investigate and prosecute trumps own crimes?
They're exposing the constitution of for the flawed document that it is
Sorry, trying to be positive