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Multiple D.C. LGBTQ+ bars pull Jack Daniel's orders over distiller's retreat from diversity & inclusion

www.advocate.com Multiple D.C. LGBTQ+ bars pull Jack Daniel's orders over distiller's retreat from diversity & inclusion

If you're looking for Jack Daniel's, you won't find it at these LGBTQ+ bars.

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Like they mention in the article, I also recommend the Uncle Nearest brand.

Uncle Nearest (his name was Nearest Green) was a slave who worked with Jack Daniels to create his famous whiskey. He was (I believe) the first black Master Distiller.

His descendants have created their own distillery. His great-great-granddaughter is now their Master Blender and man are those blends good. I went on the tour last year - highly recommend if you’re ever in Tennessee.

The Wikipedia Article on Nearest Green

Their website
- 1, thats awesome. 2, they note gluten free specifically - which if they test for it (I really hope they do when they make the claim, because distillation does not guarantee gluten-free) means I've got a new whiskey to enjoy!
  
  Gluten weighs so much more than alcohol that Im baffled as to how it would remain in solution in alcohol. It should be separated in distillation.
- Thank you for this <3
... and nothing of value was lost.
Good. Canada pulled it off the shelves. Jack Daniels also funded the anti-suffrage movement in the 1900s they have a long history of being on the bigot side of history.
Note that Brown Forman also owns the following bourbon/American whiskey brands:

Woodford Reserve

Old Forester

Coopers Craft

They also own the following European distillers:

Slane (Irish Whiskey)

Benriach (Scotch)

Glendronach (Scotch)

Glenglassaugh (Scotch)

Jack Daniels is obviously their highest volume brand, but some of these other brands are pretty big, too.
- Evan Williams, from Heaven Hill, make a comparable product at a 1/3 of the cost. It doesn't go through charcoal filtration like JD so it is a bit more complex and not quite as smooth. Heaven Hill does not have the best labor practicesvis a vis their union however
  
  I don’t have a bottle of Evan Williams at the moment but next time I do I will run some through a Brita water filter just to see what comes out the other side.
  
  Heaven Hill makes a lot of good stuff. Too many brands, though.
  
  I've never heard that Heaven Hill isn't union friendly. I always see their brands on the union-supported lists.
Noooo I think that’s illegal! Somehow!!
- I'm just imagining all those "illegal" boycotters receiving bills
This reminds me of when practically every bar in NYC pulled Bulleit off the shelves after it was revealed that the owner of the distillery was some homophobic asshole.

Even now, there are a lot of bars in NYC that refused to carry it.

That’s why I developed an appreciation for Jim Beam. Less expensive, and I like it better.

And fuck Jack Daniels. They stole the recipe from Jim Beam and ran over the river into Tennessee and started their own distillery. That shit isn’t even bourbon.
- Bulleit used to be my at-home go-to until that news broke out. Since then, I've started preferring smaller and local distilleries' whiskey. It costs a little more by it tastes way better and my money isn't going to some giant corporation.
  
  Basil Hayden is a solid bourbon, and it's a Jim Beam product.
  
  Depending on your local brand it might be supporting a bigger company anyways. Dickel is filling a ton of "local" producer's offerings.
- That shit isn’t even bourbon.
  
  It is. It meets all the legal requirements to be called bourbon (at least 51% corn in the mashbill, distilled in the United States, distilled at lower than 160 proof, aged in charred new oak barrels, barreled at lower than 125 proof, bottled at between 80 proof and 150 proof, no added coloring or flavors).
  
  They just choose not to label themselves with that name.
  
  I thought their filtration process DQ’d them from the strict bourbon definition as well, although they meet the rest of the criteria.
  
  In any case, it’s still disgusting and I’ll stick to Peated Scotch.
  
  Bourbon is only made in Kentucky!
- Bulleit was a bullshit brand in NYC. At top deal in 2016 I was paying $27 wholesale for a 750ml on a 2 case purchase (24 bottles total). That put it on the shelf at $35-40 depending on your markup (it's NYC so it's even more expensive than the rest of NY)
  
  In most states the top deal was 56 cases and in most states that bottle sold at retail for $9 less than I paid wholesale.
  
  They are a shit brand with hostile pricing made for a bigot. Fuck bulleit.
  
  Agreed, although I will say that, everywhere else I’ve been, Florida is a good example, the price of a bottle was only a few dollars more. Not nine dollars.
  
  But that’s not the wholesale price, that’s the retail price. And that is also absolute crazy bullshit. I can see how it was not a hard decision to make.
the beginning of Trump's second term, before The Camps, and The Disappearances, when there were still LGBTQ bars.
None of the gay men I know would drink that swill anyway. But, I respect the right to peacefully protest.
- Jack and Ginger ale is such an incredibly common drink for lesbians in NYC that I have managed to convince two lesbian cashiers I have worked with to successfully pursue women they were interested in because they bought JD from us while holding ginger ale.
- Cuts down on their overhead
Where my Canadian Club enthusiasts?
- CC and coke is so damn good. Especially the 12 year aged one. And now I want a rye and coke
All bars who support "having sex for fun" should do this.

I don't support sex being limited to marriage and procreation and otherwise shamed.. and even outlawed.
- Said every ancient Greek ever. We've got a true conservative here, at least in the realm of sexuality between two consenting adults.
  
  Well I guess that last clause would cause you to be anethema to the modern conservative causes.
  
  /j
They even sponsor the vice president. Or why else would he be called JD Vance?
- I thought it stood for Jorken Dapeanus
Remember, there's lots of bourbon from places that aren't awful:

https://distiller.com/lists/our-favorite-whiskeys-from-the-rocky-mountain-state

https://distiller.com/lists/our-favorite-washington-state-whiskeys

https://distiller.com/lists/the-top-whiskeys-from-oregon
- I doubt most of them are in cities, and I have some bad news for you about rural Washington State and Oregon.
  
  All but 1 on the Washington list are from western WA (the nice half) and the other is from Spokane (hipsters who got priced out of Seattle and Portland)
Isn't there more left leaning voters than right. The right only wins through Gerry mandering. So maybe this is reality catching up with the shitty fake reality we've been living.

Politics skewed people's view of who exists out there. The majority of people are common sense, we all just live within a block of each other. So politically the consensus looks like it's trump supporters. Reality is people are more common sense. But the skewed political view made the everytime executive private school class get too comfortable that they started showing their lizard skin and now we see them for what they are and have to pay
- No there aren't. Presidential election shows that
  
  Leaning isn't the same thing as voting.
My understanding, though, as a Canadian, is that refusing to sell Jack Daniel's is over-stepping, and that they have the unalienable right to be on whatever privately owned shelves and sold in whatever privately owned facilities they wish, regardless of threats made to autonomy or safety.
Are there any (liqor) companies who have the ovaries to keep DEI policies? Please dont tell me its gin :'(
Dear god, not the smoke flavored sewage
Great news
- Keep boycotting poor behaviour 😉
(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding?
Good. It's a crap bourbon anyways. It's like turpentine mixed with ear wax.
Who can stand that rotgut anyway?
I feel like he should research bullet too here...

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