There Have Been Times I Liked The Villain Dynamics Better
There Have Been Times I Liked The Villain Dynamics Better
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Posted by chai (heart) @proyearner
you know what's a really good trope? "the power of friendship" but they're all VILLAINS. just a bunch of sexy, unhinged, & morally bankrupt characters who would do anything for each other. absolutely unparalleled
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Basically the Harley Quinn show.
Harley being Batman's therapist and keeping his identity secret ("Doctor-patient confidentiality") was one of the most wholesome things ever.
Was gonna say
Woof, woof!!
the episodes of the venture bros where the monarch is forced to interact with other villains are the best.
Baron underbite knocking on the monarch's door for a place to crash because he "just got divorced"
Heros: "We did it, we finally killed the evil bad guy"
The evil bad guy's 12 best friends:
Organisation 13 if they care for each other
Villains are usually better written, more developed characters while the good guys are just good for sake of being good.
Isn't that because there are fewer unambiguous ways to be "good"? Even many people doing "good" could be seen by others as being evil?
- "I'm saving the forest!" "You're killing loggers"
- "No one will every go hungry again!" "You stole every piece of arable land and only grow the food you want to exist"
- "I've saved everyone's soul. Everyone is going to the happy afterlife when they die!" "Which religion's afterlife are you calling the 'happy' one?"
I defeat Joker and saved 10 people's life!
No you dingus! Letting Joker live mean more people will be killed before you stop him again!
Also, villains are often coded as minorities, whereas the heroes are basically the mainstream.
I remember an animated show where the reason why the villain was evil and how they were defeated was because they were aromantic
I keep identifying the the villains, but eventually, I realized that the writers of mainstream media are heavily invested in the status quo.
Dimension 20 basically did this with Escape From the Bloodkeep and it was, as usual, fantastic.
My first thought! Although apparently it was designed to end in PvP. One of the best seasons in my book, definitely the top sidequest season.
Jessie and James and Meowth
kinda reminds me of iasip
I thought of Lost. They’re not all villains, but they’re all kind of shitty.
Seinfeld.
You're describing Seinfeld.
Stupid, sexy Jerry.
Season 3 of Legend of Korra does this pretty well, though the villains are also united by an ideology that drives them to act.
Villains or antiheroes? Because this sounds like anti-heroes but villains are rather the people letting starving people die for profits.
Kinda like It's Always Sunny, but better
This is Worm.
The villains code as well. Worms better though
It breaks my heart that Worm never got more attention. It's probably the best superhero (or villain depending on your perspective) story I've ever read
Huh, I just realized why I like the Fast and Furious franchise so much
I feel like the animated movie 'Bad Guys' kind of encomappses this. They're a 'ride or die' crew that is bad, at least at the beginning. It's a good movie I recommend a watch.
"What? I wanted a longer car chase, its the best part."
Seriously that link is the first 6 minutes of the movie and if that doesnt absolutely hook you into watching it, its not for you.
Also my 5yo daughter makes me put on that song and do the sunglasses thing, shit is so adorable.
Honestly the car sold me like 50 percent on that movie, haha. It's such a short bit of the movie but it's just fun and the car is obviously badass.
Anybody read Worm by John McCrae / Wildbow? It's this and it's really really good https://parahumans.wordpress.com/
Actually, now that you mention it, Worm is this to a tee. Worm is still probably one of my favorite reads to date; highly recommend (it's like a The Boys with less evil corporations and more X-Men)!
spoiler
For all the praise, I'm not entirely sure I liked the ending, but the rest of the book more than makes up for it...
I keep telling myself to get around to reading Ward, but so far haven't had the time to commit to it.
Interesting, I thought the ending of Worm was super satisfying and worth the wait.
I read it over 5 years ago and still think about it often, and still add to my playlist of songs that's an imaginary soundtrack to it ('Tracks' by Chelsea Wolfe is the main theme).
Everybody else just go read it, it's a web serial, it's free. I'm amazed that he hasn't managed to get physical books out yet.
This reminds me of the Phantom Troupe.
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but for a good read from a Villain perspective try A Practical Guide to Evil
Isn’t that just DOOM patrol?
Doom Patrol isn't made up of villians. They are people whose superpowers caused them to be traumatized in one way or another.
I agree, but they are very shitty “heroes” to the point of causing plenty of villain like fallout 😅 the rest really fits the bill though.
Hazbin Hotel kinda?
How would you say they are villains? Some may classify as antiheroes, but like… they basically literally try to save people from extermination.
Yeah, “villain” isn’t a match, but “sexy, unhinged, and morally bankrupt” hits a lot closer.
I'm currently reading a series called Everybody Loves Large Chests. The protagonist is a dungeon mimic who gains sentience and levels up. It collects a bunch of sexy villain characters along the way. Surprisingly compelling.
It's weeb degeneracy with rape, fantasy Nazis, and a loli that shouts Ora Ora as she punches because the author took a fantastic premise and smeared shit all over it.
It got recommended to me by a Redditor.
I do not forgive their sins, or yours for spreading it.
You're not wrong 🫤 There certainly are very cringey elements in it, and I haven't enjoyed every book equally. The writing quality (content aside) is largely ok, but the editing is spotty.
To amend my previous recommendation, do not read this if you are looking for thoughtful, high quality fantasy. It's an interesting premise, with some clever aspects and a lot of bullshit.
Wait, so what is going on over in the USA, but sexy??
I guess that would be significantly more palatable ... still murder tho.
But if I could choose my dictator I would like a big mommy dommy goth, pls!
(I would be a boot-locker & it would be illegal to kink-shame me!)Agatha all along.. Kinda.
That’s basically Inspirational Skeletor.
Reminds me of an all evil campaign I played in once.
I recall "heroically" leading the towns militia into a wererat den on the night of the full moon, only to lock them all in together and finish off the stragglers on both sides afterwards. Turns out militiamen's scalps look awfully similar to those of reverted wererats, and we turned quite a profit.
