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You don't do that in America (if you want to win). You take an existing party and push it in your direction. That's how the party of Reagan is embracing tariffs.

Just meet me at the

Well you can make your own, but mind you don't get Fred Hampton'd.

… the school shooter wasn’t voted class president by the students.

Nah, the pigs might be incompetent cowards but they aren't as complicit as dems

I know, you don't ever gotta give it to them, but still

Edit: Wait, if I remember correctly (easy to confuse these things when there's so many of them), they stopped people from doing what they themselves should be doing, right? Nevermind, it's perfect.

Exactly. Division got us here. Only unity will get us out.

If you want to not kneecapping the left, you could start by not slurring progressives as "a fucking opp."

Right. But you can’t have unity/be in coalition with someone who is actively committing a genocide against your family.

Which is part of why democrats lost, especially in Michigan. With its fairly sizable Arab population. Even if they’d managed to win the other swing-states that would have lost the democrats this election.

Why should we not have unity with the Arab People of Michigan?

Please try to keep in mind pointing out the fact that Trump also isn’t in unity with them is not an answer to this question.

There are steps that need to be taken to get third parties.

First and foremost is the adoption of a voting system that can not only support third parties, but help them grow.

TLDR; Fight for Approval if you just want third parties to exist and occasionally win, Fight for STAR if you want third parties to grow and become powerful.

Now for the long part, talking about the problems with first past the post voting, and how that shapes the political discourse. Or you can watch this video.

Also, before anyone breaks in with Ranked Choice or IRV as it's called, you might want to read up on the flaws section here.

And I'd write more, but the dog wants a walk, and that's more important right now.

Every US election is called the most important election. All of them. At some point I think the only way out is to make someone lose because of their support of FPTP.

I think "we" realized it from day 1.

And, yet, here we are.

The dems are one of the only groups in the US who (legally) had the power to:

• reduce voter suppression
• fix the electoral system in general (e.g. remove the broken FPTP system)
• stop sabotaging popular candidates
• not choose a senile dementia-sufferer to remain the country's leader for years
• support the worker class instead of the owning class and get their votes (too many things to list)
• support US citizens instead of imperial interests in countries half the population can't plot on a map

For most of these things, they should have been doing this long, long ago, before even Obama's terms. The Democrat Party clearly had the power of the state for more than enough time to make them look like an alternative rather than a complicit ally of the Republican Party. Why should they not be seen as at fault?

In this analogy, the Republicans are the shooter. Not sure how you can draw the conclusion that anyone is blaming the Dems there.

I'll be the first to call out people for solely blaming the Dems when that's the case. I've been banned from so many Reddit subs for that very thing, which is how I ended up here at Lemmy in the first place. But that's just not the case here. What this image is saying is that the fault of the action (the shooting) lies with the Republicans, and the Democrats (the Uvalde cops) are too cowardly to do anything to stop it. It's a pretty damn accurate description of American politics.

I agree. The Trusk team has got the ball rolling for some of trump's base, but we have to figure out a way to separate the rest from him. I really don't know how at this point. Common sense doesn't work and they never see the people making fun of them because they live in a bubble. It's starting to be too late.

So many of these clowns can't be bothered to vote but will still blame the dems.

They actively oppose change as the planet burns and survival becomes unaffordable

They're supposed to be a counterbalance, instead people have been screaming for change so long that they're being taken in by fascist lies

They've become the party of one step forward two steps back (before the other side gets their turn and full on sprints to gain more ground)

They are a right wing party, and they've decided their latest strategy is to move even further right and give up more ground to capture voters who hate them, and to actively block change that the people are demanding. They see the left as their greatest enemy, they tell their supporters stop bothering them, and even now they want to work with the fascists

Universal healthcare and doing something about housing. Worker protections and standing up to big business. Obstruct Trump and everything he and Elon are doing.

These things have a ton of support across the political "spectrum", but are apparently totally off the table

The Democratic party is opposed to all meaningful change... They lost this election because they offer no hope, milquetoast solutions, and they don't fight back.

Pressuring the voters stopped being a valid point after election day - fascists are in office and their answer is to say "we'll get them next time, stop bugging us"

...and they are failing miserably

really funny considering they're the ones destroying our "tomorrow"

Someone else posed it this way: The Democrats exist to solicit donors; getting elected sometimes is a side effect. Big money has wrecked their ability to oppose what is happening.

We had millions of tomorrows before governments even existed.

Governments are here to more strictly enforce social contracts. They do this with varying levels of consent, but that is nevertheless what they do.

That saying is really good when it's not being actively destroyed

The government exists to govern you, exploit you, enslave you.

the government is not here to be your enemy.

"The government" as an abstract entity might not mean to be anyone's "enemy," but the one currently running the show absolutely views its own people as such.

I never set out to be anyone's enemy. I want a peaceful life, like most people do. Yet, by doing no more than the radical act of "existing," the current United States government has hand-picked me and others like me to be their enemies. Anyone who's LGBTQ, female, non-white, foreign-born, science-minded, and/or financially poor is liable to be scapegoated (at best) or outright targetted by those currently in charge.

Make no mistake - "the government" might not be here to be anyone's enemy, but this government definitely is.

Do you think the government controls the rotation of the planet?

A majority of one particular demographic voted for Trump in the past three elections which PoC and I assume anyone reading this is acutely aware of.

Immediately scapegoating minorities when they ran a bad campaign. And Biden said to bipartisan applause to Congress when Black Lives Matter was the key talking point "We don't need to defund the police, we need to fund the police!"

The parties of cops and robbers.

If that were true, it's a dumb election strategy to sit back and wait while your opponent puts an end to free and fair elections.

What world are you living in?

They had 4 years to fight Trump and make sure he was properly tried and sentenced for his crimes and they just didn't because they didn't want to look like they were going after political opponents. They have actually done next to nothing to fight him.

And the "mistake" they don't want to interrupt is Trump deporting people to random countries, setting up a giant concentration camp in gitmo, cutting cancer research funding and making life he'll for trans people. So maybe they SHOULD interrupt this mistake, with more than just signs.

What even can they do?

This, for better or worse, is the will of the people. It's not like nobody knew this was going to happen.

Yes they (most, not all) are bargaining with the lives of countless Americans, but not themselves or their families.

Fuck every one of them doing this on purpose.

Kind of a suicide move. Like, they let the mass murderer in, so you're letting everyone die to spite them.

We know that project 2025 is essentially a complete dismantling of democracy, so what the hell do they think they'll get out of letting it happen? Aside from getting lined up against a wall?

I dunno, man, waiting until the last minute to start trying Donald when we all know how slow the wheels of justice grind in this country doesn't seem tooth and nail to me.

What's next, police threaten to shoot at hostages if shooter don't give up?

Let me tell you a story!

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