Messanger / Signal / Whatsup Alternative
Messanger / Signal / Whatsup Alternative
Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.
take a look at ArcaneChat https://arcanechat.me/
Wait, what's wrong with signal?
well .. US based.
It is a us based non profit that doesn't store any information about you, your contacts, or any of your metadata, and encrypts all of your data in transit and at rest, using a strong open source encryption protocol. Signals privacy is so strong that when delivering a message, they cannot tell who the sender is. It is developed out in the open and has been independently audited like four times.
Also you don't need to purchase the app so boycotting it really only harms you since every other messaging app (that isnt self-hosted) is objectively worse in all of these measures, or has no network effect.
Don't punish orgs who are doing things right.
It's serverless though, right? The messages aren't stored in any of signal's servers? Or am I mistaken?
It's also open source, so it would be possible just to fork and use a "European" version of it. Also, since it's open source, it's free to use, so no money actually goes to on American company by using it.
The big inconvenience with the EU alternatives, is that I don’t know a single soul who use them.
I think schildichat on matrix is a good alternative the app is developed by a German guy and matrix is decentralized as the fediverse you can have your own server or join a mass server.
Here is a nice overview of the most common messenger:
Why is there no mention of TeleGuard?
Never even heard of that one.
The only thing the site says is it's using Salsa20 (a stream cipher) but says literally nothing about key exchanges, key validation, etc.
Teleguard is closed source and the encryption protocol is not public or audited.
Try out the either Element or Fluffychat. Both based on decentralized, privacy, and security. Both based on Matrix. I like Fluffychat for ease of use and it’s on all devices. Plus you have to verify every device that signs in or that new device can not see previous chats as they stay encrypted.
It's not just "based on". Element and Fluffychat are two clients that use Matrix and are fully interoperable.
(I'm sure you know, but I'm not sure it's obvious for potential newcomers)
Tue. Sorry, bit sleepy while responding doesn’t help.
I also use Fluffychat and I’m pretty satisfied. But it has its own “quirks”. I would say it’s slightly more buggy than I would expect. And I’m mostly missing the function for pasting of images from mobile device’s clipboard. It’s still doable, but in a somehow convoluted way. But once I got familiar with it, I’m liking it.
Element.io is a great option if you can get your circle to sign up
Threema is swiss
I'd say Simplex, but check this comparison:
I do like the idea behind it. However, it is extremely buggy and freezes on iOS. It is extremely convoluted to add multiple devices as for now they can't be on same profile. And to top it oof, it does not seem to have a working export database feature for now.
When they fix those issues I do feel it has a great chance to take over.
That is great Comparison.. thanks alot.
Delta Chat! Mostly Germany based, email protocol PGP encrypted messenger
Threema.
I've heard of Session, though I haven't actually tried it out yet. It's Swiss.
I've heard about https://docs.cwtch.im/, but haven't tried it. It does seem to take privacy very seriously.
I've been using SimpleX, and I like it a lot. Very polished and reliable. The company is registered in the UK.
maybe jami?