Trump tells Zelensky 'make a deal or we're out' in angry White House meeting
Trump tells Zelensky 'make a deal or we're out' in angry White House meeting
The Ukrainian leader was told to leave the White House after an angry exchange with the US president.
Holy fucking smokes. This was without a doubt the cringiest, most uncomfortable display of lack of professionalism and pure second-hand embarassment I've ever seen from a president and a vice president.
I have so much respect for Zelensky for putting up with that. What an absolute circus. Americans were made to look so feeble and insecure.
I watched some of the transmission and all I can say is my respect to Zelensky grew tenfold with that exchange alone.
Having to interact with these two clowns and still keeping his cool (as much as he was able to) requires A LOT of patience and will. It was horrifyingly stupid in a train wreck kind of way.
Starmer's visit was pointless Zelensky's visit was pointless
stop trying to appeal to the better nature of monsters. The Trump administration is either fatally mentally challenged, or wholly complicit with designs of fascism, warmongering, and genocide. Probably both
Close the book on US/EU relations, NATO is dead. America is controlled by the Russian Mafia now.
Europe, prepare for war. America, prepare for the dominion of Fasicsm, and civil war
Putin must be laughing his head off
Imagine being Zelensky and having to fly some some rando country to beg for help from a Nazi asshole to end the invasion from another Nazi asshole. And if you were to die, one of the two assholes would win?
Zelensky, if you need my help personally, just ask. I have a wheelbarrow so we can carry your balls. Trump would love it if his genitalia could weigh down a party balloon.
It was all a trap.
They just invited him over so they can try to bully him and attack his character with bullshit arguments in front of everyone so they can have that "tough guy" image for their moronic supporters. How fucking pathetic.
No one will want to go over to the US to negotiate anything now.
Congrats America, we're the bad guys now.
A foreign democracy is sending an entire generation of their male populace into the afterlife to prevent Russia from expanding their borders and influence, which is bad for everyone including America, and our dumbfuck "leader" is trying to fleece them for everything he can in exchange for helping them with what amounts to chump change.
Such an embarrassing time to be an American. We're transitioning into a much more dangerous world.
Watched it, my takes: Trump is definitly the lets make an offer he can't refuse type of negociator. I am thinking that the last week's visits have been hard on their ego. I suspect there is an agreement between european leaders to not let them get away with lies and bullshit when in person, even in the oval office. And it seems to be working, Vance respect comment make them look real fricking weak.
Here's a link to the entire exchange. It's fucking surreal and infuriating.
Fuck the MAGA US. Kick them out of NATO, and let's arm Europe. Between France and the UK we are a nuclear power of our own.
Man, I want this war over and the US out of it.
But watching our POTUS and VP behave that way on international TV. Even if you support their politics, it's hard for me to understand how all of us are not embarrassed.
I also like that Zelensky didn't just swallow the insults and spoke his piece, because the media is (of course) focusing solely on the preferred Trump narrative.
Krasnov Trump and Vanker failed to make a deal, a bunch of losers. They really suck at making deals.
i need something to bring my blood pressure down. i am flushed with anger. make your own mirror of this if you download yt-dlp run from command line
yt-dlp https://youtu.be/uqOOOR7Kr-s
"this is gonna be great television, i'll tell you that" - Donald Trump, 025/28/2, he tried to bully Ukrainian president Zelenskyy on live tv
edit should be noted the minerals in ukraine are presumed, theoretical, just what little i know, but this "deal" would allow more U.S. corruption and private interests to head over and start raping the land, looking for a jackpot.
The best thing Ukraine can do is walk away.
Edit: changed think to thing
Don't do it, Zelensky. Trump is a Russian asset.
The E.U. will have your back.
This article has some of the grossest stuff I've ever heard.
Trump and Vance accused Zelensky of being ungrateful for three years of American support, telling him he was in no position to tell the US how it should feel about it.
Those years of support were certainly due to no thanks to you. You hated every bit of help that was given to them, and now you want them to thank you for it??? I believe the US could go in and do to the Russian occupied territory what the Russians thought they could do to Ukraine and roll them over almost immediately. But instead, this admin is ready to leave them for dead unless they give up their only key to financing their rebuild without foreign "help." This is not seeking cooperation of an ally, it is extorsion.
Trump accuses Zelensky of "gambling with World War Three". He points his finger at the Ukrainian leader.
"What you are doing is disrespectful to the country - this country that's backed you far more than a lot of people said they should have," Trump says.
Zelensky calmly interjects: "I'm with all respect for your country".
Vice-President Vance interrupts: "Have you said 'thank you' once this entire meeting?"
Zelensky replies: "A lot of times".
Vance again says: "No, in this entire meeting, have you said 'thank you'?"
"You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for the USA and the president who is trying to save your country."
Zelensky shakes his head and looks away, and says the US will also eventually feel the consequences of the war.
Trump appears visibly frustrated, interjecting: "Don't tell us what we're going to feel. You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
"We're going to feel very good and very strong."
Sorry Don, I'm not feeling the alliance here. Never seen him once talk about Putin this way. I do think he's working on an alliance in this war, only it's not from Ukraine.
Fuck Trump and Vance
And in social media comments, people are cheering Trump on, like we finally get to see the “real” Zelensky.
…I am so ashamed of my country. Even if it’s a minority, we’ve platformed this kind of thing and swallowed the hook.
What did i just watch??? Kudos for Zelensky not thumping Trump on the head, or walking away..
Trump can't embarrass me more...
Trump: hold my beer.rm
I’m amazed Zelensky doesn’t stand up and slap the both of them across their faces holyyyyyyy
...this was a less respectable exchange than what you watch in most vapid reality shows...what a display with so much at stake...
On disrespecting the oval office: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-president-is-shilling-beans
Considering TASS was among the few outlets allowed to attend, I think this was a performance for an audience of one.
I posted this on another article a day or two ago... still feeling the same way:
I feel like he’s in a better position than people give him credit for. Europe is behind him, and Trump wants to have his cake (besties with Putin) and eat it (NATO). If he rejects Trump’s bullying in the negotiations, it forces Trump to decide. If he sides with Putin, that’s pretty much it for NATO, US-Euro relations. Possibly the UN, as well. The US loses A LOT in the way of economic, intelligence, and strategic cooperation all to become a VERY weakened dictatorship’s new best friend. I’m mean, of course that’s what Trump will do because “4d chess,” and “art of the deal,” and whatever.
It all kind of depends on Europe. They kind of want the best of both worlds too (back Ukraine and not lose the US as an ally). Which is more important to them? Germany’s new chancellor offered a hopeful signal after winning the election, and I have a feeling Macron and Starmer won’t ditch Ukraine, but we’ll see if that sentiment holds when shit gets real.
What the actual fuck was that
Just watched the 4 min video what a pair of a holes. I need to take a shower.
If only Zelensky could give steel spine lessons to Starmer, among others.
I mean I understand that Zelensky is desperate and doing whatever is necessary to ensure the fair survival of his country.
But the UK getting in line to kiss his dihheriacious ass, only to get humiliated by this fucking high school bully? Have some spine you fucking cowards. But I guess they meet in the common factor of enabling genocide for Zionists so they never will.
