Proton left Mastodon...

One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

"limited resources" wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn't like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

Didn't the CEO of Proton lick the Trump boot recently?

every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it's valve's linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it's going to, and Andy Yen's social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren't going to win back.

If so, I'd expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other "I'm being watched!!" kooks.

Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

Even if you agree with Proton's positions it's clear that Andy is just tanking the company's image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

Looks like I'm leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

I'm so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad..It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.

due to limited ressources

Is it that hard to post the same thing on various social media? Maybe it is, I wouldn't know. But that sounds like a shitty excuse.

It looks like they're not up to date on X tho, hopefully they drop that shit. And they're on Bluesky, which, if not Mastodon, is a little bit better I guess.

I really don't get the hidden idea behind leaving Mastodon.

It's as if with each passing day, Proton wakes up and chooses to wear a slightly different red flag for a cape than the one they wore yesterday. I'm obviously being hyperbolic here, but I'm also a bit upset with myself for having decided to get an annual subscription with them last November.

I've heard good things about Mullvad for VPN and Tuta for mail. I've got my own domain that I can start using with whatever mail host I land on.

I'm in the U.S. What other mail providers are people using, and what other VPN providers should I be considering?

Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don't need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.

I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I'm not yet willing to self-host that.

Yup, no sorry. Only bots left in reddit, have fun!

Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.

Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

Yet another reason to not like Proton.

Guess I made the right choice to leave Proton.

I really dislike these commercial "private" solutions to surveilance issues we have but people always seem to prefer them because of strong marketing around.

At least they are still on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/proton.me

But a true fediverse presence would be better

I wish VPS providers didn't commonly block email ports. Self hosting seems like the only way to stay in control

What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would've kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate

It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don't mind abusing for free now.

If you're looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

Not that they'll care but I bought for two years but will find something else when that runs out.

Nothing of value has been lost

Proton is a CIA honeypot episode 978.

I only use their Drive, I need a privacy focused alternative with a browser version in case I can't convince my family to download an app, any recommendations?

I mean, it makes sense for a company to focus on a platform with a large user base. Social media managers aren't free.

Ugh, I use proton for VPN and email. Any suggestions for decent VPN at this point?

Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don't use Mastodon.)

I understand. Why use resources on a platform that is so badly designed for new users that isn't used but to post manga and linux memes from tech nerds? If this is your reason to drop Proton then you're priorities seem a bit off imho.

Good bye privacy.

Yeah fuck proton

I can see a company not wanting to invest resources in a social media platform without critical mass. But for a company that itself is trying to gain critical mass, moving away from a similarly situated privacy focused platform is idiotic. It signals to potential Proton users that the company cannot be trusted and it’s very hard to recover from that.

Does anyone know of a good alternative to simple login? They're owned my proton too and I have about 150+ aliases to move

I’m a proton user but I’m out of the loop. Please paste link or give me the tl/dr?

Anyone know any good vpn alternatives with port forwarding?

so the social media manager has time to clean the toilets in the afternoon

Man. Right when I was about to buy into the ecosystem and get away from google.

[edit]: slightly less worried after reading this: https://lemm.ee/post/55314225

I believe I'll need to move to mailbox.org with custom domains.

Meh

This is a genuine question : how Proton stopping using Mastodon for communication make them bad ?

Sad news :-/

At least we have !protonprivacy@lemmy.world but they're not on it I believe