Discord requiring you to add a phone number after the creation of your account
Discord requiring you to add a phone number after the creation of your account
Really annoying!
What the FUCK.
I immediately went to settings and, I guess at some point I'd already given these swine my phone number? Went to remove it and I've greeted by this wonderful toast message=
God I wish something was fully suitable as an easy discord replacement 😭 spacebar seems rad if it wasn't super alpha. And as cool as element is, it just doesn't have the same low bar to entry that discord has (not to mention group calls are jank as hell, when they work, and there's no screen share yet tragically)....
They also sell that number, all your chat logs, voice calls and media to AI training companies.
Dont be a loser, dont use discord.
Source? The only record of data being sold I remember is some 3rd-party that scraped public servers.
Per their privacy policy they collect
Content you create. This includes any content that you upload to the service. For example, you may write messages or posts (including drafts), send voice messages, create custom emojis, or post other content that you create with features that we develop. You may also upload and share files through the services.
Thats what they collect(so not the calls apparently my bad). In regards to how they use it, they mention advertisement stuff and the usual vague language of "improve our services" and "personalization". The AI stuff is supposedly opt in, but they collect the data and they are subject to US subpoenas so all bets are off anyways.
I would love to if all of the most helpful specialized communities didn’t all use it.
I can’t even get my friends or family to use Matrix/Element, let alone the masses.
Trust me, I want to make the full switch, but if I’m hanging out on my fancy open source server with no one on it, what’s the point?
I will agree that anything akin to Facebook or Xitter isn’t helping achieve anything, since they don’t provide communication that can’t be found elsewhere (social updates, memes, event invitations, etc), but for communities like this specifically, there’s just not many other places to go.
having a hard time finding a good alternative for screen sharing in a voice call. recently deleted discord and me and my buddy moved to matrix (element) but the screen sharing is very laggy and it needs a more aggressive mic noise removal. we speedrun a singleplayer game together and use screen sharing for that. steam can do all this but the delay is unacceptable.
honestly I'm this close to going back to discord 🤏
Im following matrix dev work very closely so im wondering if you have been trying the old call system (jitsi or 1:1 calls) or the new one (element call). the new one should work well for screensharing video but ofcourse you do have some level of compression artifacts. the element-desktop client should have it enabled by default since a few version ago. You can quickly test it out here without an account too https://call.element.io/
For noise removal it just uses the standard webrtc noise filtering stack afaik which does suck, but i have it disabled and do that kind of audio filtering systemwide on my linux machine with easyeffects.
I don't actually know how good it is but another software that does screen sharing you might try is Jitsi
Matrix sucks
I don't really know what else to use
Year of Elements/Matrix when?
I really like using Element, but there are so many issues besides the not so intuitive account system, that deters the average user
So many niche games servers tho.
FTL: Faster Than Light - Multiverse (mod community) for example, like there is literally no replacement community.
It's a shame that spacebar and revolt did not really take off so far.
this is the first time I've heard of spacebar
Yeah, that's the problem - none has. Sadly I also only read about it here in a previous post about discord a few months ago.
discord's been doing this for a while, it's really scummy
other companies that do this (that I've found):
- twitter (even before muskrat bought it)
- probably a lot more
Which is the reason I don’t have a discord account. I just can’t be bothered.
I get discord mail sometimes telling me I have to log on urgently as accounts get deleted after a few years of inactivity.
There was a server I poked around in once that required members to provide phone number just to join. Seems very unethical considering all the bad things that can happen from identity theft or stalking.... it's not like mods are employees for Discord. They're just random mofos. Why would I trust a stranger on the Internet of all places?
The server owners cannot see your phone number. It's just a way to keep bots and assholes out most of the time.
The server owners can’t see your phone number. Discord allows you to set a minimum verification level for users in your server. The lowest is simply having a verified email on their account. The highest is a verified email, a few minutes old (so no brand new accounts), been in the server for a few minutes, and a verified phone number. It’s just a bot prevention thing, because spammers/scammers are a big issue on large Discord servers. Especially early in Discord’s history, it was a big issue where bots would raid a server and just totally shut it down with spam links. So Discord started allowing server owners to set minimum verification levels before users could interact and send messages.
for me it wanted one after i added too many friends at once
it some agressive anti spam "ai" that more or less randomly decides if it wants a phone number or not
Can we just go back to irc already?
If we had ircv3 specs that included reactions. etc we might be. I rolled a small group of IRC servers with a few selfhost people a year back and it was quite fun. Tbh IRC itself is still alive and well, it's just not user friendly enough to get non-tech people over easily
Just after Elon Musk’s twitter (𝕏) made it a norm~
What’s really annoying as well, is that if you try to remove your phone number from your account, your account will get blocked for “suspicious activity”, after doing the required captchas it will get unlocked but your phone number is still there, trying to remove it again will just lock your account again, how is that legal?
For what it's worth I literally just removed my phone number from my account after reading your comment and it did it no problem. Haven't gotten any suspicious account alerts yet but if I get one I'll come back and update.
Say the word!
I created an account without a phone number. What really anoys me is there focus on IP addresses. They apparently don't realize IPs rotate.
I hope Mozilla launches the Firefox Relay phone masking soon...
I mean, if you're using Discord, then you're probably not the kind of person to be bothered by this anyway.
The reason I don't have a Google account.
I needed my for some kind of organized event, it took them a week to take my account out of the spam filter, where they put me without event saying a word. By then it was too late, I made the fucking account and gave them my number for nothing else than troubles.
I got locked out of my old discord account because I didn't have a phone at the time