Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia
Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia
Trump made the remark while deriding Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, whose country was invaded by Russia in February 2022.
President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that Ukraine was responsible for Russia's invasion of the country three years ago, arguing Kyiv could have made a deal to avoid the conflict.
“You should have never started it,” Trump said of Ukraine while criticizing President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who had expressed concern that his country was not included in talks between the U.S. and Russia in Saudi Arabia.
"I think I have the power to end this war, and I think it's going very well. But today I heard, 'Oh, well, we weren't invited.' Well, you've been there for three years," Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago resort. "You should have never started it. You could have made a deal."
Trump went on to say: "I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, everything, almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished, and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way."
It was literally a surprise invasion that half the EU didn't even believe was gonna happen and Russia denied was happening. How the fuck are you supposed to negotiate a peace to avoid a surprise invasion that Russia vehemently denied was gonna happen?
What the actual fuck is this bullshit?
If Ukraine didn’t want to be invaded, it shouldn’t have dressed that way! Stupid sexy Ukraine.
yOu CoUlD hAvE mAdE a DeAl
god damn this guy is a smoothbrain.
And america voted for him to run their country.
You spelled ruin wrong.
They had no choice! The Dems should have put up a better candidate! Genocide! Gaza! Liberals! Woke! DEI! Anything but make me address the consequences of my action and/or inaction!
I didn't vote for that garbage
I mean, looking at global politics… propaganda campaigns against democratic nations or alliances aren’t only occurring in the US and they’re working all over. You think Brexit wasn’t a psyops campaign funded by Russia? Or how about ultra-right wing conservatives popping up in elections across the world? These are planned attacks against democracy, they’ve just been hard at work sowing the seeds to destabilize the US for decades, and those seeds are finally paying off.
russia funds all of those groups, its not a coincidence they suddenly all appear around the time the us had thier elections.
Ruin*
I didn't... i would NEVER vote for that prick. We were bad before, but now I don't blame anyone for hating the US
I hate the US. That does not mean I hate all Americans, but jesus fuck, you guys fucked so many millions of people around the world voting for a literally human piece of shit. In not sure who's worse, Hitler or Trump, but it looks like Trump might finally win something: being worse than Hitler.
Boris Johnson told Zelensky not to accept a peace agreement in 2022 when Russia was willing to let Zelensky sit at the table. Now the Ukrainians don’t even get to attend the peace talks, no doubt because the Russians know that it’s the British and the Americans who give Zelensky his orders. Blame whoever you want, the Ukrainians really did it to themselves.
You really shouldn't waste eggs by putting them on your face like that. They're expensive.
"if you didn't want to get raped, then why did you dress so provocatively?"
This is only kind of hyperbole, since Trump was actually convicted of raping a woman...
the same script russia uses, trump gets his orders from putin. its also " you're making me rape you"
Is it illegal to say 'the president of the united states of america deserves to die'?
With a mortar launcher
RIP Trevor Moore
Sic semper tyrannis.
Trump having a .ml Lemmy account was not on my bingo card
He got his tech guys to federate Truth Social with Lemmy
Leave it to the convicted rapist to blame the victim.
"Grab'em by the resources. When you're a superpower, they let you do it."
He's a rapist... of women, children, and now countries (allegedly, since he hasn't been convicted of all three)
Don't forget the Constitution
It was all their fault.they existed. They were breathing and worst of all they didn't want their land stolen. How dare they?
Putin’s puppet since Helsinki Summit.
Pretty sure he was already a puppet, that was just the rimming of the ring.
EDIT: Speaking of which, does anyone know if Marina Gross is still actually alive? I get not wanting media attention etc, but she seems like a ghost for someone that translates for world leaders.
Wait, what was the Helsinki Summit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtsNNXjBPw
Trump was totally cowed by Putin, just watch it.
"9/11 would not have happened if America kept out of the Middle East" ahh energy
He is perfectly and unquestioningly following his owners commands, like any good dog. He just amplifies Putins position on this rape of another country 100%.
I can’t believe they told russia to invade them.
Crimea was an inside job!
I though Russia was claiming they were attacking Nazis in Ukraine and that's why they went to war or something... I forget
Not a war, a 'denazification operation'. (I remember a couple of years ago back on The Website when I saw this post about Russia bombing a Holocaust memorial. So yes, denazification or whatever euphemism Putty wants to use indeed.
Russia took the final step into fascism in 2022.
But its useful to understand that Nazi in Russia, just means someone who opposes Russia, (and Russians can't see their country as anything other than an imperialist warmonger, spheres of influence and fighting in massive wars is a cornerstone of what Russians think is their national identity thanks to decades of propaganda and abuse)
Calling it a war will land you in gulag comrade
And Trump is just repeating what his master Putin told him to say.
Look what you made me do
The abuser mantra
I'm sorry, baby. I still love your extractable minerals.
His ancestor should have drowned while emigrating
Either time, especially when draft dodging
Nonono, his ancestors didn't emigrate, they just randomly spawned in 'murica.
"Look what you made me do it to you..."
You know something's up when he makes reality-denying statements.
Because he can, it works and noone will take him accountable.
If you didn’t want to get robbed, why did you wear that expensive watch?
It's more like if you don't want to get robbed, why are you alive?
Pretty provocative existence you're doing over there
He's sucking up to his benefactor and handler Putin.
Thought exercise: Which assassination would have more efficacy in the long term, trump, Vance or Musk?
If we're limited to just one, Musk. Trump's unlikely to live another ten years, and Vance doesn't have the money or popular support to be a threat without riding Trump's coattails. Both also have pretty minimal impact outside of the US. Musk has global influence, at least another thirty years ahead of him, and enough money that very little short of death or being placed in a high security prison would hurt his efforts.
Yes.
¿Porque no los tres?
From what I have heard, JD The Couchfucker Vance doesn't really have the charisma, so he probably wouldn't do too well without his buddies.
He'd have a pretty long runway to make his lack of charisma not matter.
He's likely the key figure in drafting a lot of the executive orders that Trump is rubber stamping. Trump and Musk get a lot of the attention, but Vance is more quietly behind a lot of the stuff, happy to let Trump get the credit for Vance's and Trump's contributions.
and not one dome would have been knocked down
... what?
Is he talking about the deliberate attack on Chernobyl recently?
Does Ukraine also have those ornate, domed church designs like Russia?
Not quite like the one you're thinking of (St. Basil's in Moscow) but yes, these ones are just in Kyiv: https://www.erikastravels.com/the-churches-of-kiev/
One of you should learn to shoot straight.
It is everyday when I check the News this Bellend is talking a pile of crap.
As always our glorious leader is correct in all things. /s
US intervening in Ukraine to purposely push and provoke Russia
US: "why would Ukraine do this???"
I agree tbh, whole thing was provoking Russia by US