Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

Why bother with this? If you want to make a point, pass regulation in Mexico to call E.E.U.U. (US in Mexico) be called Northern Mexico. Then Google is forced to comply on that territory like they claim they do for disputed sections when maps are viewed from that region. It would make for some funny reactions from people visiting Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.

Edit: plus it would show how stupid the whole rename thing is to begin with.

Don’t “threaten”. Any asshole can make a threat. GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

Everyone needs to get used to ignoring this bullshit. The Gulf of America thing isn't important. It doesn't effect anyone, and there's far too many posts about it when there are real things to pay attention to. This is purely a distraction. Stop giving it attention.

I can see Google (and Apple) quietly paying a fine and changing it for Mexico (and any other jurisdiction that specifically asks).

This is stupid and cowardly of them, but that aside, the implication is 100% “comply, or the US government will make life difficult for Google.” I can see how they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Where will the lawsuit be filed in?

Mexican courts? Good luck getting an American company to comply.

US Courts, well... surely no judge would be biased right? glances at the composition of the US Supreme court

International Courts? Lol like they have any power at all.

Reminds me of The Expanse:

"Earth Court? Mars Court? What Inner court gives Belters justice?"

Less threatening... More doing.

The U.S. dictatorship are just doing and they're slowly tearing apart OUR planet.

Again, this is one of the dumbest fucking wastes of money I've ever seen. Waste of labor from the top down. Waste of resources. This is purely a pride move. It's the gulf of Mexico and always has been. There are American songs about the gulf of Mexico. It's history. I have said it before and I'll say it again, I fucking hate this timeline. This shit is wild. This stuff now days is a mockery of our world.

Ive been already boycotting google, amazon, facebook, reddit. Yall need to get on it

The word "America" is not reserved for the USA alone and belongs to the entire Americas: North America, Central America, South America. As such if they want to rename the Gulf of Mexico then it should be the Gulf of North America of which both the USA and Mexico are a part of and share borders around that body of water.

Furthermore the word "America" isn't an English word but the German bastardization of an Italian word. Specifically the word "America" was coined by Martin Waldseemüller a German cartographer who named the Americas after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci who explored the new continents for Spain and Portugal. So I guess the Gulf of North Amerigo is more accurate. LOL.

Amerigo Vespucci - History Cartoon ~ Innovative History ~ YouTube.

In any case, if this is the big orange blow-fish's attempt to dis on Mexico then it's pretty petty much like everything he does to massage his massive ego.

Whenever I see Gulf of America mentioned, in my head it sounds like "This is America" in the Childish Gambino song.

I want to know how many of the people here defending Google's decision would be okay with Google labeling Taiwan as "Taiwan (Chinese Taipei)" for people in Taiwan and also the rest of the world.

What's dumb about this is that in their jurisdiction (Mexico) it is actually the "Gulf of Mexico" in Google Maps, they don't get the "Gulf of America" name. In the US it's labelled as "Gulf of America" without mentioning "Gulf of Mexico" which you could argue Google has to do because it (theoretically) follows national laws everywhere it operates.

That's why Korean users don't see the Sea of Japan to their east, they see the East Sea. That's why in some locations the Persian Gulf is referred to as the Arabian Gulf instead. It's also why inside India the borders you see for Kashmir don't match the borders you see for Kashmir if you're in Pakistan. The rest of the world sees a third version of that area with areas marked as disputed.

What's really annoying is that every other country in the world is exposed to this "Gulf of America" silliness, even countries where people don't speak English. I can understand (just barely) having "(Gulf of America)" under "Gulf of Mexico" in English-speaking countries because if someone is hearing news from a US source and they refer to the Gulf of America, it might be useful to know what they're talking about. It's in the news now, but in 3 years say you're a high-school kid trying to do a geography report and can't find the feature on the map, that could be annoying.

But, this parenthesis rule apparently even extends to Germany, where it's "Golf von Mexiko (Golf von Amerika)". There's no reason to include a name that doesn't exist in your language on your version of the maps app. If I, as an English-maps user look at Germany, I don't get Munich (Munchen). I don't get Florence (Firenze), I don't get India (Bhārat). There's a long-standing tradition that maps show things in the name that's local to the map user. Sometimes, over time, a name gets changed to be closer to the way it's said in the local language, so Peking became Beijing.

Also, google addressed this in a blog post from 2008, almost literally describing this situation:

"How Google determines the names for bodies of water in Google Earth ... if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage"

Other than the ruler not being female, the body of water being a different one, and "America" not being Donald Trump's mother, this is the exact situation.

Edit: I guess technically Donald Trump is female.

Don’t forget apple

PLEASE.DO IT

I prefer the name "golfo del gringo loco"

I stopped using everything Google. Fascist collaborators won't get a dime of my money, won't get my eyeballs on any of their ads, and won't get a single kilobyte of data from me to sell for profit.

I'll keep my gmail account open because all it really does is accumulate spam which probably costs them money.

Google also removed the ability to suggest edits to specifically the Gulf.

Guess they knew ahead of time they'd get an influx of requests to change or back.

Don't sue- just threaten to block some of googles services in your country and they'll come around real quick. Hit em where it hurts. Google isn't hurting for lawyers.

Don't even bother with a pointless lawsuit. Simply stop using Google.

Funny thing - I just checked yandex maps (because I'm bored) and it still shows "gulf of mexico" on it.

Can someone just make a mod or something for g-maps to name all American names to like Spanish ones? Nuevo York, Guashintón Distrito de Columbia, that kinda stuff.

or we keep american shit inside america. fuck googlemaps, apple and all other shitty US corporations. see, tump will die some day and be forgotten, but people will remember what apple and google did. next time you see someone work for alphabet...spit them in the face. next time an american buys a burger, you spit on it. etc. it is not about actual harm as america is killing itself anyway atm. my bingo card says if trump wins twice, there shall also be two pandemics. maybe protest the egg prices a bit more before using that muri-brain to do sth. against it. americans are just stupid.

Just call it the Gulf of Fuck The Environment, We're Getting Rich!

So why did google change it in Canada?

FUCK YEAH, DO IT DO IT FUCKING DO IT! Please sue the fuck outta those shitfucks!

It is labeled Gulf of Mexico in Mexico and the name doesn't mean they own it. This is almost as ridiculous as calling it Gulf of America in the first place

Senkaku Islands are the center of a dispute between Japan and China, both claim them, both have names for them. Wikipedia goes more in depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands

On google maps we get...

So it's not like they can't give stuff multiple names.

It's a US company following US policy as it's a contract holder for the US Government they're compelled to follow US policy. Whether anyone likes it or not, at least for right now, US policy is that the Gulf of Mexico for all intents and purposes is the Gulf of America.

President Sheinbaum can sue Google all she wants, but there's no court that's going to find that a US company complying with US policy is breaking the law.

class action please, so we can let our powers combine

While we are at renaming things...

if im not mistaken, i think i heard google pulls the data from some external database, which changed the name. google didnt change shit, rather the database they use did.

i could be wrong, but i could have sworn i read that somewhere.

also seems rather petty to me to sue an american company for following US policy changes.

to be clear, i think the gulf of america thing is stupid as hell, and petty on trump's part.

This is stupid. Google is doing it with their normal process, labeling the USA as a sensitive country in their system and changing the label only for the sensitive snowflakes. So there is no harm to Mexicans in Mexico. (this was wrong, it's show globally in parenthesis, see below)

What sort of damages would she assert anyway? That her country suffers in a significant way from a Google Maps label that can only be seen from the sensitive country? How so?

And if it's a political move what is she hoping to achieve? Google will never cave to the USA before Mexico, they depend more on their US operations than their Mexican ones. So she can't achieve anything politically. Does she want to draw even more attention to a losing fight? A losing fight over mere symbolism no less? Why?

Come on, guys. You have drug cartels. Surely they have a guy named Luigi. Doesn't Trump want to declare war on Mexico or some insane shit like that?

I thought they just did that in the US

President of mexico is just showing themselves to be as big of a baby as trump. Best thing to do is ignore it. Its of such little importance.

But it kinda makes sense to be called Gulf of America since it's located in North America.

Well, the continent was named America, not the Mexico continent. So the name Gulf of America just sounds right. It's not like the name changed to the Gulf of US.

It's stupid, but it's not that extreme. Countries have different names for things. For example, Germany calls the Baltic Sea "Ostsee" (lit. east sea) and Lake Constance 'Bodensee" (lit. bottom sea) but those things are only at the bottom and east for Germany.