Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10, with end of life fast approaching

I just use Windows 10 v1809 ltsc, I'm good for a few more years.

im one of them 😬

Gonna repeat something I said a little while ago.

If you're planning to try Linux but have no experience with it, the best piece of advice I was given is this. Learn how the filesystem is structured. It will make everything else you try to do easier.

You're also going to get a ton of conflicting advice on which distro to use. Pop OS or Mint are my suggestions. !linux_gaming@lemmy.world is a good resource to know about too

I like the optimism of Linux users thinking there will be a massive flood towards their favourite Linux distro.

When the obvious path the majority of gamers will take is just ... not upgrade anything and stay on an unsecure OS until their next major PC upgrade.

Most users don't care about security as long as it allows them to do with their computer what they want.

If Microsoft didn't push people to a new version, you know too many would still be rocking Windows 8.

Thing is, there's people out there on windows 10 on a computer without the magic special chip windows 11 demands.

Lots of those people can't update and lots don't know about Linux or understand how to even use a USB drive to install it.

Yes it's easy for us semi tech people, but remember not everyone is into tech or understand how computers works.

People NEED computers to do stuff like applying for jobs, or searching online, or video games with friends.

Those people who don't have a tpm chip and can't upgrade will just not and continue using a insecure windows 10 because they don't know or understand what it is.

Remember Lemmy, just because you understand tech, doesn't mean everyone knows about it, or can grasp the concepts.

fuck Windows, I am done with M$

The only reason I'm still on windows 10 is because I'm dreading the weekend of head banging against table I'm going to have when I do the switch to Linux before October... Not looking forward to getting it all set up and working

Maybe because Windows 11 sucks

Yeah well Windows 11 fucking sucks. What do they expect? Maybe if you have to do all kinds of shady shit to get people to accept the newest version of your shitty product you should take a good look at yourself and evaluate why that is.

MS can pry Windows 10 out of my cold, dead hands. I'll switch to Linux before Win11 and I don't particularly want to do that either.

M$ ended win7 support in January 14, 2020. Steam did not end win7 support until January 1 2024. M$ ending support for their OS does not mean Steam will do so anytime soon. Considering how small number of their users has updated, there's a good chance Steam will keep supporting win10 for many more years. By that time I know I will no longer be using Windows.

Every single edition of Windows introduces new forms of bloat and new ways for MS to overreach and attempt to play corporate nanny over a user's system; why the fuck would anyone willingly upgrade Windows when they have the chance not to?

IF steam OS is ready for wide release by then, you'll see massive adoption.

i'll upgrade to some baby Linux distro once the end of life hits, i am lazy

(i'd also need to set up a dual boot as i'm cursed to need Adobe apps and those are famously allergic to Linux)

I'm not going to Windows 11 or Linux. I found a copy of Windows 10 LTSC with support til 2027+.

Win 11 is downgrade to Win 10, and I expect Win 12 to be a downgrade to Win 11. I still didnt decide whether Mint or Kubuntu will be the next OS on my pc. I'm pretty sure Windows 12 has no chance.

I've been meaning to get a Linux VM spun up for testing games. I gather that I'll have some issues (i.e. blockers) with multi-player games and cheat-prevention, but I'd just as soon play single player games anyway.

I've been a Linux/Unix admin for 25+ years so I've no excuse other than convenience. But I'm done.

This may precipitate a massive shift to Linux, especially for gamers.

I run it on the servers I administrate and recommend it to everyone, but I can’t switch until the get Adobe support. I NEED to use Adobe apps for work. At least macOS is UNIX and far better than Winblows.

Let me introduce you to our lord and saviour, tux

I stayed with XP until 7. I stayed with 7 until 10. I'll probably stay with 10 until the next Windows. Assuming it actually is decent again, and not just even shittier than 11.

I'm surprised 0Patch hasn't been mentioned in this thread. There's really no reason to stop using Windows 10 after EOL if you can still get security updates.

Already begun the switch to linux on smaller pcs. Moving to some larger ones this summer to verify initial impressions... big gaming pcs going in fall.

Well... BYE Felicia

11's been fine for me. I know this is a hot take around here but if any readers are dreading it because of things you've read, just try it out.

Steam should push po>!o!<p-up ads like [Windows support is ending, click here to install Linux.]

People, I've already mentioned that Windows 10 LTSC is out there until 2027. Additionally, Windows 11 non-TPM is available out in the 'bay.

I had to install Win 11 on my work computer and it is still total dogshit. One example - The search from the Start menu never works so you have to pin every app to start or go through the whole app list to find the one you want. Its been like this for a year at least. Things, like my speakers, just randomly stop working and I have to restart to get them to work again.

I was able to upgrade to Windows 11 on my dinosaur desktop (at least 10 years old) without any issues. Been able to keep it updated, too, for at least the last 2 years.

There are ways to bypass certain hardware restrictions, and I'm sure plenty of how-tos are still available.

No need to sweat it.

I wonder how I’d be considered. I use Steam on Linux on one computer, Windows 10 on another, and Mac on another. Maybe I get counted thrice.

Can anyone speak to the VR experience on Linux? I mainly use my desktop PC for VR nowadays, steam deck for everything else. From what I've heard, however, VR is still steaming garbage on Linux.

Gaymers raise up!

Windows 10 is still supported currently. When that changes I will update to windows 11, until then I have no reason to do so.

The other half is running linux, right?

Right?

Valve later this year:

I’m one of the many. Hate where tech is headed, I remember hearing about Microsoft wanting to turn windows cloud based with a subscription. Hell no

I just came across this incredibly detailed guide yesterday. It’s my new go to for those looking to switch. It’s a pick-what-you-want guide. Do as much of it or as little as you want. But I was in preparation to write basically this and this guy did a much better version in 2 months:

The Guide

I switched my desktop to mint a few weeks ago. Kept win10 on a separate drive, but I haven't booted it since.

It always feels like Windows users hate moving to the new version every time. Maybe for valid reasons, but they drag their feet kicking and screaming. Then they eventually move to it.

With end of life the year of the Linux desktop fast approaching.

when do they roll out that pay for support instead of being forced to windows 11

Or, like me, still on Windows 7, they could just no longer use Steam. Lots of games I can still play on this OS or in my browser. Maybe someday I'll go back to Linux, or maybe even React, just for the hell of it.

Eh I just installed 10 in a VM to do my taxes

There seems to be an understanding that the average user is going to switch from windows 10 at EOL. I'm quite confident most personal devices will run it until it stops working flat out. Your average PC user has no concern about security vulnerabilities until they're exploited in a way that actually breaks the functionality of the thing.

A migration to to Linux will be very delayed. Like months or years. In lots of cases probably long enough that people will be shopping for new hardware anyways by the time they have to decide on a new OS.

Damn, that sucks for them. Glad I gave up that nonsense years ago.

I won't upgrade til they let me use throttlestop with virtualization enabled.

For whatever reason, Windows 11 won’t let me upgrade. And I still have decent hardware. So when support runs out, I’m switching to Pop!_OS.

Only reason my new rig has windows is for some specific peripherals that just dont seem to have good solutions for linux (logitech g600 MMO mouse, and an NZXT kraken cpu cooler display). The mouse gets completely jacked up and has all the side buttons rebound to numpad by just using it in my experience. Had to reload the mouse firmware on windows to restore basic functionality.

The user experience was honestly vastly superior on Fedora KDE, and my next GPU will be AMD so i can give it another shot on linux

Windows has a pattern. Every other release blows. Just wait til 12

There are two things that hold me to Windows (10) as my daily driver: MS Office, and support for a virtual file synchronization a la Nextcloud (which I presume piggybacks off of what MS built for OneDrive.)

My secondary laptop, my 4 year old's laptop, my gaming device (Steam deck), homelab, are all on Linux. It has been fun to learn Linux and it's what I intend for my kid to grow up on.

Eventually, when I get a new laptop (current is 8 years old and I'm really hoping Framework gen 2 has a touchscreen) it'll be Linux first... And I hope Nextcloud gets that virtual file sync going by then because a network share/WebDAV connection will make me sad.

Is this in anyway meaningful? Like will their computers stop working or will it force an update when they are least suspecting?
Just curious and am hoping to grab popcorn in the meantime

One fewer next week, my SSD is in transit and I'll be installing bazzite on it