Well I'll say two things, first the old /r/conservative would never have allowed this open of a discussion. I don't know if these stayed up long but I remember people even going very slightly against the Fox narrative being banned.
Also this guy, completely and utterly misguided though I believe he is, at least has the courage of his convictions. He's willing to make a sacrifice for what he thinks is good for the country. I very much doubt he's right but still, that's more than most people can say.
Gen X'er here, guessing this person hasn't had to look for a job in a while. Especially when externalities make the search more difficult, like having an entire sector upended.
It took 1500 applications, over 100 interviews, and 4 years to find my current position. And, this was a callback from a prior rejection! They let the first person go that I interviewed with due to sabotaging intake because they were insecure in their position.
Have fun with all that.
Okay, so, being incredibly generous here, I sort of get their point, but why not slowly ramp tariffs up to allow domestic production to catch up? Because fuck you, that's why.
And, as always, none of any of the false promises of prosperity excuse any of the hate Trump spreads.
making yourself employable doesn't mean shit when the local community faces economic collapse since they are floating on top of the economic output of a single factory. Dude good luck finding a job with all the millions of other people moving to places where the work will be.
Also I wonder what he thinks the long term gains are? Dude thinks the economy is a muscle that needs to experience stress to get stronger. In the long term other countries will stop doing business with America, since they found more reliable partners.
I'm actually impressed by some of the critical thinking going on! Some are saying this would cause more US based steel manufacturing while others point out nobody is setting up a company when even Trump himself can't commit to keeping the tarrifs in place for 4 years. However, nobody is discussing why there needs to be more US based steel production.
What is bad about importing steel? An American factory producing steel and an American factory producing cars from imported steel are both American factories. Why is it so important for the US to produce all of their steel domestically?
Fine, if he still supports this although he is suffering from it, his choice. But making a lot of others suffer from this, possibly in the long run, just makes him an ignorant asshole.
"long term gains can be protected". Since the new era of executive orders, how will this ever be the case? We'll just lurch from one side to the other after the next administration comes in and reverses everything that the previous did with new EO's.
“They skinned my children alive while they made me sit and watch. But ya know what? I’m glad they did that. It’s what’s best for the country. Plus it builds character, and I’ll have a great story to tell my children one d….oh right”
The assumption that everyone else in the country is just him, an able bodied person of working age is telling of how much thought this person put into their vote.
Also the assumption that they will be able to get another job of equal pay even with keeping up his skills. That is a big and stupid gamble.
So executive orders are useless for this, and what concessions are Republicans willing to make to get a Senate super majority to pass an amendment, which hasn't happened in most of our lifetimes?
Well, look - my softie bleeding heart librul values make me absolutely hate it when economic uncertainty leads to people losing their homes and their livelihoods. But this is the government that we, the people voted for. And if the government that we, the people voted for is creating economic uncertainty that is causing people to lose their homes and their livelihoods, then my bleeding librul heart bleeds for the people who are displaced. But I am also well versed in irony, and brother, this is an irony smorgasbord.
If you're one of the people who voted for the guy who's creating the economic uncertainty that's currently fucking your shit up... brother, I'm not sure what I can do for you.
Resistance is always the last option. The best option, and the first you should turn to, is voting in a way that is consistent with your values and your economic priorities. If you voted for this, and you're upset at what your voting got you... I'm not sure that you're going to like what I've got to tell you.
Hope he suffers as much as humanely humanly possible. He voted for an anti-democratic felon rapist to own the libs. As far as I'm concerned he's a traitor.
Also I'm sure this LITERAL EXACT SAME GUY: "what Democrats don't understand is that socialism can't work because everyone at the end of the day is selfish and our country should run based on that assumption" also: "utilitarianism is evil and what the Nazis did if you believe in that you can excuse any terrible action with 'its for the greater good'." (That's a common type of excuse for anti-abortion people)
This reminds me of a poll around the time of the Brexit vote. They polled Tory voters (I think) with various Brexit scenarios, eg would you still support Brexit if it made your life worse, made your grandkids' lives worse, etc etc. They all came out for majority would still support it... With one exception. They wouldn't support it if it meant Jeremy Corbyn (leftist leader of the opposition at the time, although he was also a brexiteer) becoming prime minister.
I wish I could find that poll. If only so I can check I'm remembering it correctly.